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Subject: [Leica] Horrible but stunning
From: s.dimitrov at charter.net (Slobodan Dimitrov)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 20:56:41 -0700
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You're asking foundational questions. Instead, I would have you read "The 
Modern Theme" by Jose Ortega y Gasset. The essays are expository 
illustrations on subjects that you are asking about. The role, and meaning, 
of the point of the view, is in chapter 10. 
S.d.


On Jun 9, 2011, at 8:12 PM, Jayanand Govindaraj wrote:

> Richard,
> Read the book - it caused a storm when it was published, we are
> looking at the subject after 45 years of 'me too' articles, books ,
> photographs, etc have dulled our reactions and senses to such
> subjects. He opened the door for such commentary, and made it kosher,
> which is what I meant by 'put to rest'. I read it in the late 1960s
> and was blown away - by the way, in those days there were only books
> to influence your thinking, no internet, computers, Ipads, etc!
> 
> If you want to go to probably the granddaddy of social commentary
> pictorially, you could do no better than William Hogarth.
> 
> Cheers
> Jayanand
> 
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Richard Man <richard at imagecraft.com> 
> wrote:
>> First: agreed, Darcy did great work there.
>> 
>> Second: Jayanand, I read the Wiki articles. I suppose you are saying that
>> some journalists would be so drawn into the story that they "live" it, and
>> may be even alter the story to suit their needs. I'm not entirely sure how
>> that applies generally to "the debate about the role of the person
>> documenting such issues was put to rest," but it's probably neither here 
>> nor
>> there.
>> 
>> Third: as for "should the photographer help or not," sure bad things 
>> happen
>> regardless, but it's the same thing as going to a shelter and taking one 
>> dog
>> or cat home - while one cannot save everyone or every dog, but if there is
>> someone one can help, it is VERY important for THAT someone.
>> 
>> All I wish for that photojournalists should make some sort of statement
>> about their viewpoints on the whole matter. I do not mean to question
>> Darcy's integrity or anything or that sort, but I want to know - what's 
>> the
>> glory in it for them?!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> // richard <http://www.imagecraft.com/>
>> // icc blog: <http://imagecraft.com/blog/>
>> // richard's personal photo blog: <http://www.5pmlight.com>
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