Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/05/18

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Subject: [Leica] Leica M9P or M9.2 or M10
From: msadat at gmail.com (mehrdad)
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 07:57:42 -0700
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all of the leia s3 shutter leaf lenses are late , very late

On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 6:36 AM, Frank Filippone <red735i at 
earthlink.net>wrote:

> To me, the niche they picked is untested waters for them, in a field
> already
> established with large brands, existing solutions at half ( third?) the
> price that are getting more pixels, more low noise, more features at a 6
> month rate....
>
> Leica was never good at turning R+D quickly.  Their S2 competitors are.
> Their customers expect it.  Terrible solution to be in.
>
> Are they sold out?  Sure/maybe as we have no idea if the things were
> available, if there would be demand to get them, LONG TERM.  You are still
> seeing pent up demand.
>
> Comparisons to the M5 are missing the point that the M5 used ALL the Leica
> lenses that users had already.  It was an alternative body, not an
> alternative system.  It was a 1 trick pony.  The M5 is generally considered
> a marketing failure.
>
> Will it outsell ( in dollars) an M5 or the R line?  Maybe at up to 100
> times
> the unit price it should.  It may have already.  Is the criteria for
> success
> the relative sales compared to a failure?
>
> It is not technical quality that will win or even make the product viable.
> It is users spending on it that will.  What influences those customers is
> technical quality, features, cost, service, rental ability ( pros only),
> competitive product, existing product in their closets, and the ability to
> say... I bought this REALLY expensive piece of jewelry.
>
> Time will tell, and my crystal ball says the S2 won't be around long.
>
> I will say it again... they should have bought someone else's body, thrown
> on a Leica Mount and made glass for it.  Or just go make AF glass for the N
> or C of the world.
>
> They didn't, they won't.
>
> Frank Filippone
> Red735i at earthlink.net
>
>
>
>
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Replies: Reply from robertmeier at usjet.net (Robert Meier) ([Leica] OT Constitutional Amendment)
In reply to: Message from wildlightphoto at earthlink.net (wildlightphoto at earthlink.net) ([Leica] Leica M9P or M9.2 or M10)
Message from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] Leica M9P or M9.2 or M10)
Message from red735i at earthlink.net (Frank Filippone) ([Leica] Leica M9P or M9.2 or M10)
Message from msadat at gmail.com (mehrdad) ([Leica] Leica M9P or M9.2 or M10)
Message from Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com (Frank Dernie) ([Leica] Leica M9P or M9.2 or M10)
Message from red735i at earthlink.net (Frank Filippone) ([Leica] Leica M9P or M9.2 or M10)