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Subject: [Leica] OT: Yellow gone gone gone
From: kanner at acm.org (Herbert Kanner)
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 18:53:12 -0700
References: <p06240815c9d370bc11cf@[192.168.1.106]> <5CFFC845-3AE6-4C2A-ACED-7408D9412364@mac.com> <p0624081fc9d4f1cd512c@[192.168.1.106]> <78D6B80D-33A3-4DDE-AC72-448BF9089EA9@verizon.net>

And this magic Ikea ten-dollar lamp did it in twelve hours!

>Wow! Time flies. I did a lot of research on Thorium yellowing in
>2007 and took these two photos of my Pentax 50mm f1.4 Super Takumar
>lens. It took me a total of 116 hours to remove the yellow cast,
>exposing the lens to UV at night and sunlight during the day. Here
>are the before and after photos.
>
>http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/LeonardT/Pentax/
>
>It was during this timeframe that Jim Nichols investigated his
>Pentax lens for yellowing.
>
>I believe I have a technical paper explaining the phenomena
>somewhere. If I find it I'll post it.
>
>I was not aware that the 90mm Summicron used Thorium. It must be an
>early model as leica stopped using Thorium in the crossover period
>between the 50mm Summitar and Summicron around 1954. The 90mm
>Summicron was introduced in 1957.
>
>Len
>
>
>
>On Apr 20, 2011, at 4:30 PM, Herbert Kanner wrote:
>
>>Thanks for the kind word, George. Byron Rakitzis suggested that my
>>speculation as to the cause of the yellow was probably incorrect,
>>and suggested a Google search. I found a lot of information
>>indicating that the yellow was due to radiation damage from gamma
>>rays emitted by some of the daughter products of the decayed
>>thorium. No information as to why a few hours application of UV
>>cures this.
>>
>>Herb
>>
>>
>>>On Apr 19, 2011, at 12:23 PM, Herbert Kanner wrote:
>>>
>>>  > So now I concluded that the balsam was fine, and that this lens
>>>had at least one thorium glass element. I headed to Ikea, where I
>>>had never been before. I felt like a lab rat in a maze; everyone
>>>should have that experience ONCE. By some miracle I found a desk
>>>version of that lamp $9.89, assembly required! I applied the
>>>recommended twelve hours of exposure, and the yellow is gone gone
>>>gone.
>>>
>>>
>>>Kudos! Herbert.
>>>and thanks for the detailed and useful information.
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>George Lottermoser
>>>george at imagist.com
>>>http://www.imagist.com
>>>http://www.imagist.com/blog
>>>http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>--
>>Herbert Kanner
>>kanner at acm.org
>>650-326-8204
>>
>>Do not meddle in the affairs of cats,
>>for they are subtle and will pee
>>on your computer!
>>
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>
>
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-- 
Herbert Kanner
kanner at acm.org
650-326-8204

Do not meddle in the affairs of cats,
for they are subtle and will pee
on your computer!


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