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Subject: [Leica] DMR V D3s
From: red735i at earthlink.net (Frank Filippone)
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 21:16:50 -0700
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Thank you,.. now I see it... It does look like grain....

Certainly not objectionable.....

Frank Filippone
Red735i at earthlink.net


-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+red735i=earthlink.net at leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+red735i=earthlink.net at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
afirkin at afirkin.com
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 5:35 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] DMR V D3s

Here it is at 1:1

The noise is 'best' seen in the darker areas: those that do not reflect as
many photons to the sensor. Its present in every image, but is only obvious
when the visual effect of the noise is not overwhelmed by the number of
photons hitting the sensor. So when we use high ISO, all we are really doing
is pushing the sensor and exaggerating the effect of the random noise.

On this camera, it comes through as a gentle 'stipple' or grain like effect

http://tinyurl.com/3e3pheu

here is an example from an earlier camera: Olympus E500 at 1600 ISO

http://tinyurl.com/445aaer

Any of this make sense?


Cheers Alastair

> Alastair.. I thought the image rather good before I knew the ISO 
> involved...
> I am more impressed even now.....
>
> BTW, I can not see any "noise", even at 1:1.. can someone point it out 
> to me....
>
> Still learning this digital stuff.....
>
> Very interested in the final results....
>
> Frank Filippone
> Red735i at earthlink.net
>
> Dull afternoon intermittent rain. 70-200mm zoom with 2x teleconverter 
> f45 12800ISO 1/100TH sec handheld no flash, no noise reduction; 
> standard LR settings for import of NEF RAW image, converted to jpeg in LR.
>
> There is a little noise at 1:1 but very fine and more like film grain 
> than the noise I've seen from other cameras.
>
> I do not have mount converters yet, but I do hope to trial some of the 
> L glass on the Nikon when I do.
>
> Cheers
>
> Alastair
>
>
>
>
>
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