Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/03/31

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Subject: [Leica] Lightroom3
From: philippe.amard at (philippe.amard)
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 23:32:52 +0200
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Thanks Tina, a very informative and clean video

Le 31 mars 11 ? 22:48, Tina Manley a ?crit :

> <
> >It's
> much, much better than LR2.  Faster but lots of new features.  You  
> can't
> find them all on your own so watch the video.
> Tina
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Herbert Kanner <kanner at>  
> wrote:
>> For over a year, I had been using LR2 because it wouldn't run on OS X
>> (Tiger), and I wasn't about to enrich Apple with $129 for an OS  
>> upgrade.
>> When Fry's suddenly offered it for $29 I installed Snow Leopard,  
>> fought with
>> the things that stopped working, like printers, until I understood  
>> how Apple
>> had reorganized stuff. Then, yesterday, I installed the LR upgrade.
>> So, it would be interesting to know what the major changes are.  
>> Most things
>> look pretty much the same. I understand they claim that they have  
>> improved
>> the noise reduction, but it is so pathetic compared to what  
>> NoiseNinja will
>> do in its most simple-minded automatic mode that I would not even  
>> bother
>> with the LR noise reduction facility.
>> Interesting point about NoiseNinja. They provide a chart which can be
>> photographed with various cameras at various ISO values, the idea  
>> being that
>> you create noise profiles from those photographs and then use them  
>> to reduce
>> noise in subsequent photos. Well, I tried it, and to my surprise  
>> found that
>> the dumb simple way of using it produced better results.
>> The simplest way is to go full automatic. The software finds a  
>> number of
>> uniform areas in the picture, samples them, and then produces a  
>> profile for
>> THAT picture which is then used to remove noise. It does show you  
>> what spots
>> it is sampling. It can be fooled if some area with uniform  
>> microscopic
>> detail looks like noise. I found one photo where the automatic  
>> procedure did
>> not work. In that case, one has the option of manually selecting  
>> small areas
>> in the picture that should look uniform, drawing little sampling  
>> rectangles
>> just as if one were cropping out tiny areas. I.e., you're telling the
>> software where sample the noise.
>> One drawback is that it produces .tiff files that are over 100 MB  
>> in size.
>> They can be cut back with what I think is loss-less compression,  
>> but that
>> becomes an extra step.
>> Can anyone summarize for me what other goodies besides backing up  
>> at a SANE
>> time differentiate LR3 from LR2?
>> Herb
>> --
>> Herbert Kanner
>> kanner at
>> 650-326-8204
>> Do not meddle in the affairs of cats,
>> for they are subtle and will pee
>> on your computer!
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> Tina Manley, ASMP
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