Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/03/31

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Subject: [Leica] Lightroom3
From: images at (Tina Manley)
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 16:48:53 -0400
References: <p06240813c9ba93f0881d@>

much, much better than LR2.  Faster but lots of new features.  You can't
find them all on your own so watch the video.


On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Herbert Kanner <kanner at> wrote:

> For over a year, I had been using LR2 because it wouldn't run on OS X
> (Tiger), and I wasn't about to enrich Apple with $129 for an OS upgrade.
> When Fry's suddenly offered it for $29 I installed Snow Leopard, fought 
> with
> the things that stopped working, like printers, until I understood how 
> Apple
> had reorganized stuff. Then, yesterday, I installed the LR upgrade.
> So, it would be interesting to know what the major changes are. Most things
> look pretty much the same. I understand they claim that they have improved
> the noise reduction, but it is so pathetic compared to what NoiseNinja will
> do in its most simple-minded automatic mode that I would not even bother
> with the LR noise reduction facility.
> Interesting point about NoiseNinja. They provide a chart which can be
> photographed with various cameras at various ISO values, the idea being 
> that
> you create noise profiles from those photographs and then use them to 
> reduce
> noise in subsequent photos. Well, I tried it, and to my surprise found that
> the dumb simple way of using it produced better results.
> The simplest way is to go full automatic. The software finds a number of
> uniform areas in the picture, samples them, and then produces a profile for
> THAT picture which is then used to remove noise. It does show you what 
> spots
> it is sampling. It can be fooled if some area with uniform microscopic
> detail looks like noise. I found one photo where the automatic procedure 
> did
> not work. In that case, one has the option of manually selecting small 
> areas
> in the picture that should look uniform, drawing little sampling rectangles
> just as if one were cropping out tiny areas. I.e., you're telling the
> software where sample the noise.
> One drawback is that it produces .tiff files that are over 100 MB in size.
> They can be cut back with what I think is loss-less compression, but that
> becomes an extra step.
> Can anyone summarize for me what other goodies besides backing up at a SANE
> time differentiate LR3 from LR2?
> Herb
> --
> Herbert Kanner
> kanner at
> 650-326-8204
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> for they are subtle and will pee
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Tina Manley, ASMP

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