Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/01/25
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I was joking about the S2 Geoff. Stefan should quit and let you sell the cool aid, er, I mean advertise Leica. A lot was said before Stefan became the official spokesperson for the company. I was told twice to my face that a digital M was impossible in the mid 1990s. Marty On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote: > I think that you are safe from seeing an adapter to fit R to S. I'm not so > sure that many R lens owners regard spending 25 thousand or whatever as a > solution to use those lenses anyway! > > Back on the difficulties with producing a digital M can you imagine what > the > camera would have cost in the earlier days of dSLR's? I think that they > were > tellling the truth at the time with the then current sensor > technology/costs. > > This is historically interesting from Stefan Daniel (pre-M8 actual release) > > .........Beyond that the digital M will have a focal length crop factor of > 1.33. This technical constraint is necessary because our top priority is to > deliver the utmost picture quality. Given the optical reality of M lenses > and today's state of sensor technology, the ideal solution for our > customers, a full-format sensor, would not live up to our high standards. > This is particularly true for aspects such as vignetting and sharpness from > image centre to corner. In this respect we've already reduced the thickness > of the cover glass and filters located before the sensor to an absolute > minimum so that laterally impacting light rays do not cause unwanted > calculations. The radius of the micro lenses and their positioning before > the sensor was designed in such a way that they channel as much light onto > the pixel as possible. These measures and others ensure the picture quality > that one has come to expect from the M system. The crop factor was selected > so that the same picture angles are maintained - all one has to do is take > a > different lens: a 21mm turns intoa 28mm, a 28 into a 35. Having considered > our options we are convinced that this is the best solution, in terms of > attainable picture quality and - since the costs of a sensor increase > exponentially to their size - in terms of the price of a digital M.... > ?Cheers > Geoff > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman > > > On 25 January 2011 17:36, Marty Deveney <benedenia at gmail.com> wrote: > >> The worst thing would be if all they can come up with is an adaptor >> for the S2. ?I know Leica have said they won't, but they also said >> they couldn't make a digital M, then a full-frame digital M . . . and >> so many other things. ?Lucky I like their cameras and lenses a lot. >> >> Marty >> >> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:03 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >> wrote: >> > The worst thing could happen they actually do come out with an R10. The >> we >> > have to face the fact that we don't have nine grand USD. Just like many >> of >> > us had to face the fact that we don't have the seven grand for an M9. We >> > have to be careful what we wish for. Make sure we also wish not just for >> an >> > M9 or R10 but the money to get one us to buy one too. >> > Doesn't do me any good with all the other nice photographers shooting >> with >> > an M9. I need to have one. >> > >> > >> > -------------------- >> > Mark William Rabiner >> > Photography >> > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >> > mark at rabinergroup.com >> > Cars: ? http://tinyurl.com/2f7ptxb >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> From: Philippe Amard <philippe.amard at sfr.fr> >> >> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> >> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 07:48:39 +0100 >> >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Hullo. Leica R Solution - now in video >> >> >> >> >> >> Le 25 janv. 11 ? 04:13, Sonny Carter a ?crit : >> >> >> >>> Give it up; ?we don't need no R10. >> >> >> >> Give me a dream though ;-) >> >> Marylin, Elvis, and the man on the moon were, >> >> and still remain for some. >> >> >> >> Amicalement >> >> Philippe >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Leica Users Group. >> >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Leica Users Group. >> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information