Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/11/06
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]It depends on your intent for the shot. The lower contrast of the 80 R lens makes the light look more subdued. It's one of the things *I* like about older lenses: on digital you can make the shot look harder later very easily in post processing, or on B&W film you can develop longer or use a harder grade of paper or a higher filter number when printing (which is why Salgado likes Pentax medium format lenses). Colour film makes adjusting this harder, and I think is where a lot of the motivation for higher contrast lenses came from before 2000. If you look closely I bet the M shot has a lot more fine detail, which may be important to you too, which is why Doug Herr uses those contrasty Leica APO R lenses. Marty On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net> wrote: > Thanks, Jeff. ?They were made within 2 minutes of each other with the same > light. ?I was surprised that the R9 handled the extreme range better than > the M9. ?I just converted them in LR3 with custom profile for the M9 but I > haven't profiled the R9 yet so that's just whatever LR used. ?I tried > several ways of adding extra dynamic range for the M9 but none of them > looked any better than the original. ?I'll keep playing with them, though. > ?I much prefer the R9 version so far. > > Tina > > On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Jeff Moore <jbm at jbm.org> wrote: > >> 2010-11-06-19:06:03 Tina Manley: >> > Here are two shots from today. ?One with the M9 and 90 Summicron: >> > >> > http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/130103020 >> > >> > and one with the R9, DMR, and 80 Summilux: >> > >> > http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/130103614 >> >> Interesting. ?The M9/90 picture looks crispier, for what that's worth, >> but these photos are hard to compare - the M9 picture has harder, more >> direct light while the R picture is more cloud-diffused; ?the white >> balances seem different; ?it's possible that custom DNG profiles would >> help, if you haven't already done those; ?blah, blah, blah. >> >> For reasons which probably have nothing to do with the equipment used, >> I think I like the R one a bit better. ?It seems like raw material >> from which a photo I'd like could be cropped. >> >> ?-Jeff >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> > > > -- > Tina Manley, ASMP > www.tinamanley.com > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >