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Subject: [Leica] Another M9 question
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2010 20:13:08 -0400

Try getting on to flickr and trying to find m pix shot with flash.
I bet its difficult to impossible. Even with hundreds to pic from.
You don't really need flash with full frame DSLR's. Let along a Rangefinder
M.
You've got pie in the sky ISO's now.

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> From: Michiel Fokkema <michiel.fokkema at gmail.com>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 00:04:45 +0200
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Another M9 question
> 
> Well, I dare to state that flash can certainly help to make a better 
> picture
> in specific circumstances and if you know how to use it properly. 
> Especially
> with the small, slide like, latitude of digital sensors.
> It of course really depends on your line of work and what you try to
> achieve.
> Problem with Leica M's is of course that a good powerful flash on top of it
> really kicks it out of balance.
> If this M9 could just get a decent file at iso3200 might change things a
> bit:-)
> 
> cheers,
> 
> Michiel Fokkema
> 
> On 5 October 2010 23:58, <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
> 
>> Tom Schofield offered:
>> Subject: [Leica] Another M9 question
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  I found, much to my chagrin, that there is no ttl flash with an m9 and
>>> sf20 or Metz 54mz + sca3502.  Metz shows no new adapter for m9/s2 giving 
>>> ttl
>>> control.  An ebay seller is advertising a Metz 54mz + sca3702 (Pentax)
>>> adapter for m9 & s2.  I asked him, and he says it works ttl with those
>>> cameras.
>>> 
>>> Anyone hear of this before?  I'd much rather spend $100 on an adapter 
>>> than
>>> $800 on an sf 58! (and, yes, I know that if I can spend $7 k on the 
>>> camera,
>>> I should be able to spend another $800 for the flash, plus $200/ lens x 6
>>> for coding, etc.)
>>> 
>> 
>> No no no at all!
>> Look out Tom here I come! ;-)
>> 
>> Put the word FLASH  out of your mind completely! And just go shoot
>> everything and anything motivating your photographer eyes!
>> 
>> Save yer money and forget a flash of any kind and use the money for a very
>> fine bottle of single malt scotch! :-) Make you feel much better than
>> watching a multi dollar flash destroy the picture moment .... AS YOU SEE 
>> IT!
>> Not when a flash goes off and immediately destroys what's motivating you 
>> in
>> the first place. The NATURAL LIGHT ON THE SUBJECT!
>> 
>> You are using one of the world's classic cameras for available light in
>> this fashion ... "If you can see it, (your subject} You can shoot it! :-) 
>> If
>> it looks cool and your gut is telling you... "SHOOT IT, SHOOT IT!" Do it!
>> You don't need a damn useless light/image destroying flash!
>> 
>> A flash is a completely out moded fashion of destroying the light on your
>> subject that is motivating you in seeing the subject to shoot it! The 
>> flash
>> will only do one thing consistently.... "destroy the existing light on the
>> subject motivating you in the first place!"
>> 
>> And make your photos just like every other happy snapping snapshot without
>> mood, gut feeling and a beautiful image.
>> 
>> So there you go me old son... FORGET THE FLASH! :-)
>> 
>> you're welcome, glad I could be of assistance! ;-) ;-)
>> cheers,
>> 
>> Dr. ted  ;-)
>> 
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