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Subject: [Leica] Camera Phone Wars in Los Angeles! (you don't stand achance)
From: s.dimitrov at charter.net (slobodan Dimitrov)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 11:38:25 -0700
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I use a Droid. The apps available are more than I would use in my own 
digital/silver based images. But I find the ability to use minimal controls 
not to be too dissimilar than a RF, or a basic view camera. The images 
download to a card (16gigs), making post production possible. But there I 
just tend to bring out the faces, and leave well enough alone on the rest. 
S.d.


On Sep 17, 2010, at 11:53 AM, kyle cassidy on the LUG wrote:

> I find the cell phone challenging for art photography because there's so 
> very little control built into the camera, you essentially have two 
> buttons "meter/focus" and "take the photo" -- and for something like this:
> 
> http://www.kylecassidy.com/lj/2010/iphone-daph-1.jpg
> 
> which is an unextrordinary metering job for someone with even the meanest 
> dslr, when trying to do it with a camera phone you need to bring in other 
> sources of light (in this case in the form of reflectors) to keep the 
> contrast low to keep the camera from blowing the highlights. I don't know 
> that it's ground glass, but it requires similar skill to exposing an 
> ordinary frame, you just have to imagine that nearly all of your controls 
> are inoperable. Let too little light onto the shot and the camera will 
> auto-lift the ISO to mind numbing numbers and you'll just have a bowl of 
> grain for breakfast.... 
> 
> I think the pre visualization is important, but with a camera phone you 
> need to be more aware of the minutia instead of the gross. Or you can just 
> let everything blow out and chalk it up to DIY style.....
> 
> 
> On Sep 17, 2010, at 2:33 PM, slobodan Dimitrov wrote:
> 
>> So far, it's been corporate people who are taking the class.
>> I've seen what some of my "fine art" acquaintances  are doing digitally.
>> They just haven't been able to get it.
>> I'll let the cat out if the bag on this one.
>> If you are used to shooting RF, and/or with a ground-glass, the phone 
>> camera is a cake walk.
>> The phone camera is basic ground-glass photography. On the other hand, 
>> with the ability to pre-visualize learned from using a RF, you can shoot 
>> with any photographic instrument, regardless of quality, or mechanical 
>> complexity.
>> If you've only known photography through the 35mm SLR, there will be a 
>> steeper learning curve.
>> S.d.
>> 
> 
> 
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