Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/08/27
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Kyle, I really do not agree with you about "Migrant Mother". You are right in your statement, but only in the right cultural context. You need to know a bit of US history for it to be obvious what the subject is. Let me assure you that the majority of the population in the world would think it is a well to do US woman... Cheers Jayanand On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 11:59 PM, kyle cassidy <leicaslacker at gmail.com>wrote: > Richard is correct "any good image should be good without words". > > The idea it is that it's possible, probably, likely that at some point > if your image survives, it will not survive in context -- images will > be viewed by people who don't speak the language any writing was > written in, images may be removed from context and reproduced, we have > museums filled with medieval and ancient paintings depicting things > art historians can only speculate about -- they're either good > paintings or they're not. > > Your photographs need to be good photographs -- Dorthea Lang's > "Migrant Mother" comes to mind -- it doesn't need any text to tell > it's story, you can tell by looking at it -- eyes, expressions, the > destitute context.... Imagine instead the photo looked like this: > http://northshorecollaborativelaw.com/images/two_kids_w_mom.jpg and > had the caption "this mother and her children are part of the great > exodus caused by the dust bowl, they are seeking work in a migrant > camp, their life is very difficult" -- one tells the story by itself, > the other needs to be propped up with text to convey the story. > > This isn't to say that images and text can't go together, or else > national geographic would have no words -- but your photos have to be > able to still tell their story if the words are stripped away. > > > On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 2:10 PM, George Lottermoser <imagist3 at mac.com> > wrote: > > and twice the chance of being on as well. > > > > > On Aug 27, 2010, at 2:16 AM, Mark Rabiner wrote: > > > >> To me a person can be in danger of having a delusional ideal of the > value > >> of > >> their images. > >> Its also possible they can have great images but be delusional about the > >> value of their writing that goes along side these images. > >> So that's twice the chance of being off. > >> > >> -------------------- > >> Mark William Rabiner > > >>> From: Lottermoser George <imagist3 at mac.com> > >>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > >>> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 21:13:27 -0500 > >>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Searching? > >>> > >>> Perhaps I received Kyle's message "wrong." > >>> > >>> I certainly agree with your interpretation. > >>> > >>> > >>> On Aug 26, 2010, at 3:32 PM, Richard Man wrote: > >>> > >>>> I think what you say below is different from what Kyle means. If I > may: > >>>> any > >>>> good image should be good without words, but some images become more > >>>> powerful, and perhaps a DIFFERENT image, when paired with the right > >>>> words. > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >