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Subject: [Leica] Fwd: Question about Camera Raw 6.1
From: photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 18:39:06 +0200
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Hi Tina,

As I told Geoff off-list, I don't buy computer books anymore. If a piece of 
software is so complex that I need a book then I will look for something 
else. One the things I have always liked about LR is precisely its relative 
simplicity. What I learned when trying the first version back in 2006 has 
been transferable to the later versions, obviously with some looking at the 
online stuff to learn the new features that interested me. But no books for 
me, thanks :-)

Cheers,
Nathan

Nathan Wajsman
Alicante, Spain
http://www.frozenlight.eu
http://www.greatpix.eu
http://www.nathanfoto.com
PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog

YNWA





On Aug 10, 2010, at 1:49 PM, Tina Manley wrote:

> I recommend Martin Evening's LR3 book.  It's "only" 651 pages packed full 
> of
> helpful information.  His PSCS5 book is 745 pages plus a DVD!  Also very
> helpful but I'm using that one more like dictionary to look up specific
> topics.  The LR3 one you can go through like a textbook.  I couldn't begin
> to know everything LR3 can do without it.
> 
> Tina
> 
> On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 3:35 AM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at 
> gmail.com>wrote:
> 
>> Use your force multiplying super powers Nathan. There are more changes 
>> than
>> the noise reduction of course. Zero out the sharpening or whatever in bulk
>> or make a new preset ISO or serial number specific filter, synchronise as
>> many or as few as you wish or whatever. A powerful and noble beast waits
>> only for your direction. Do some free tutorials or grab a book? Its a very
>> differnt mindset to working with Bridge for example.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Geoff
>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>> 
>> 
>> On 10 August 2010 15:39, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu> wrote:
>> 
>>> Now I have tried it with a couple of high-ISO images, and I would caution
>>> upgraders against just letting Lightroom update the entire filmstrip
>>> automatically. In the two cases I looked at, high-ISO images became
>> sharper
>>> but also grainier after the upgrade, not necessarily the effect I wanted.
>>> Fortunately, the update can be undone in the Develop module, since it is
>>> just another action in History.
>>> 
>>> For me the bottom line is that updating of previously processed images
>> that
>>> are low ISO is by and large a waste of time, and updating of high ISO
>> images
>>> should be done on an image-to-image basis, not in bulk.
>>> 
>>> Thanks to everyone for your help.
>>> 
>>> Nathan
>>> 
>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>> Alicante, Spain
>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com
>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog
>>> 
>>> YNWA
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 9, 2010, at 11:05 PM, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Thanks Bob,it does work the way you describe. Not that I see a big
>>> difference, but I have only tried it with low-ISO images so far, and I
>>> suppose the benefit is not that great in those cases.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> nathan
>>>> 
>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>> Alicante, Spain
>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com
>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>>>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog
>>>> 
>>>> YNWA
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 9, 2010, at 10:52 PM, Robert D. Baron wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> When you open an image in LR3's develop module that had previously
>>>>> been processed in an earlier version, you will see an exclamation mark
>>>>> in the lower right hand corner.  If you click on it you will be given
>>>>> the option of doing nothing, of upgrading (up-processing) the single
>>>>> image or of up-processing everything in the film strip.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You can also elect to see a before and after comparison IIRC.  I have
>>>>> found the up-processed version to be better in every case where I have
>>>>> done a comparison so I no longer do them.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think this is right, I'm at the office now and I have LR on the
>>>>> computer at home.
>>>>> 
>>>>> --Bob
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at 
>>>>> frozenlight.eu>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>> And how do I change from process 2003 to process 2010? Is it an
>>> image-by-image thing, or can it be done in batch?
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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> 
> 
> -- 
> Tina Manley, ASMP
> www.tinamanley.com
> 
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