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Subject: [Leica] Macro
From: images at comporium.net (Tina Manley)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 09:00:52 -0400
References: <1829691694.1325211279252147758.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs12> <9A1A3260-EC8E-4F10-97D6-F0DFEDB2A102@mac.com> <16A4FA24369D4A768886A9BC1480EB3D@jimnichols> <4E809C75-077E-4C42-B903-1092A1853E3C@mac.com>

I used to use it a lot on the 5D and didn't notice any problems.  I prefer
the 100 Macro, but the 60 is very nice.

Tina

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 8:28 AM, George Lottermoser <imagist3 at 
mac.com>wrote:

> I noticed it for the first time
> on the Memphis ABANA shoot.
> Bright white background
> a silver umbrella as a side light near edge of frame on right.
> It shocked me.
> Didn't show up on a recent portrait session.
> But reared it's ugly head again on the latest chandelier shots,
> with lit bulbs (properly exposed) in the frame.
>
> Different size sensors may have a different affect.
> Camera baffle designs?
> I haven't tried to duplicate the anomaly in the 5D.
> I should do so.
>
> Regards,
> George Lottermoser
> george at imagist.com
> http://www.imagist.com
> http://www.imagist.com/blog
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 16, 2010, at 12:05 AM, Jim Nichols wrote:
>
> > George,
> >
> > I use the 60mm f/2.8 Macro routinely on my Oly E-1, and also on the
> E-510, and have never seen that problem.
> > Guess I'm just lucky.
> >
> > Jim Nichols
> > Tullahoma, TN USA
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Lottermoser" <
> imagist3 at mac.com>
> > To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 11:58 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Macro
> >
> >
> >> the R8/DMR is quite wonderful for macro
> >> with 100 2.8 apo macro, 60 2.8 macro
> >> with or without R bellows.
> >>
> >> Unfortunately I found a digital glitch
> >> when using the 60 (in normal - non macro - focusing ranges)
> >> something occurs as it interacts with the sensor
> >> to provide a magenta hot spot in the center of the frame
> >> if light sources are in the frame
> >> or even at the edges of the frame.
> >>
> >> I've tried to overcome it with shades, baffles
> >> and all manner of black card magic.
> >> Yet it persists.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> George Lottermoser
> >> george at imagist.com
> >> http://www.imagist.com
> >> http://www.imagist.com/blog
> >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jul 15, 2010, at 10:49 PM, grduprey at mchsi.com wrote:
> >>
> >>> I use my R8DMR for macro.  I have the 60 Macro Elmarit R.  Works nice,
> but would like to have the 100/2.8 R.  I also have the bellows R for real
> serious close up pics.
> >>>
> >>> Gene
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Henning Wulff" <henningw at archiphoto.com>
> >>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 4:10:56 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
> >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Macro
> >>>
> >>> George, I've found the 5DII to be a vast
> >>> improvement over the 5D in these sort of
> >>> situations. I don't have an Ultima but do have
> >>> the 17 and 24 Canon TSE lenses. If you compose
> >>> and focus only on the image coming to you by way
> >>> of the mirror you really con't use the tilt
> >>> function on these lenses. On the other hand, in
> >>> magnified Live View mode accurate tilts are a
> >>> piece of cake. I've done a lot of table top stuff
> >>> with LF, and I wish I had had something like
> >>> this. It truly is a revelation, and no dark cloth
> >>> and loupes required while hot lights are burning
> >>> into your ears.
> >>>
> >>> Live View on this camera (and the m4/3 cameras
> >>> I'm familiar with) is accurate enough to
> >>> realistically and correctly measure and judge the
> >>> effects of focus shift in various lenses, let
> >>> alone accurately set up tilts or focus macro
> >>> objects. The fact that the screen is as bright at
> >>> f/16 as at f/2.8 is a huge help.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> At 3:29 PM -0500 7/15/10, George Lottermoser wrote:
> >>>> I agree totally Mark.
> >>>>
> >>>> I continue to NOT understand
> >>>> the quest for easier, less, smaller, cheaper, less, etc ?
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes iPhones et al are fun and
> >>>> in the hands of skilled visionaries,
> >>>> can produce art.
> >>>>
> >>>> I just did a series of macro images
> >>>> using the 5D on the Ultima with an 80 Rodenstock Apo enlarging lens
> >>>> with the intention of using shifts and tilts.
> >>>> The viewing screens (both the original and the
> >>>> brightscreen) just suck (for this kind of work).
> >>>> So I replaced the 5D with the R8/DMR
> >>>> and immediately found my self in big, huge,
> >>>> heavy, difficult, tilt/shift macro heaven;
> >>>> achieving exactly what I envisioned in my mind.
> >>>>
> >>>> The only body that could be better (given my lenses and other kit)
> >>>> would be an M9/90macro/Viso because of the additional real estate;
> >>>> or better yet a 39CFV, Leaf Aptus II-7 to 10, or
> >>>> PhaseOne 25+, 45+ or 65+, back.
> >>>> With the M9 mega-tool - the question is not
> >>>> "what what other camera can I get to make macro
> >>>> easier?"
> >>>> The question is "What can I get to do macro with this incredible M9
> tool?"
> >>>>
> >>>> If all I had was an M9 and wanted to do macro
> >>>> I'd be all over the 90 macro and viso with bellows and all sorts of
> lenses.
> >>>> (but going from M9 to 1.5, 4/3 or smaller? What is the point?
> >>>> unless all we're talking about is "oh look
> >>>> there's a neat bug to show on the web" type of
> >>>> approach)
> >>>>
> >>>> (The 5D remains a fun and functional tool with Canon lenses)
> >>>>
> >>>> and of course YMMV
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> George Lottermoser
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>>   *            Henning J. Wulff
> >>>  /|\      Wulff Photography & Design
> >>> /###\   mailto:henningw at archiphoto.com
> >>> |[ ]|     http://www.archiphoto.com
> >>>
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-- 
Tina Manley, ASMP
www.tinamanley.com


In reply to: Message from grduprey at mchsi.com (grduprey at mchsi.com) ([Leica] Macro)
Message from imagist3 at mac.com (George Lottermoser) ([Leica] Macro)
Message from jhnichols at lighttube.net (Jim Nichols) ([Leica] Macro)
Message from imagist3 at mac.com (George Lottermoser) ([Leica] Macro)