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Subject: [Leica] Macro
From: grduprey at (grduprey at
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:49:07 -0500 (CDT)

I use my R8DMR for macro.  I have the 60 Macro Elmarit R.  Works nice, but 
would like to have the 100/2.8 R.  I also have the bellows R for real 
serious close up pics.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Henning Wulff" <henningw at>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at>
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 4:10:56 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [Leica] Macro

George, I've found the 5DII to be a vast 
improvement over the 5D in these sort of 
situations. I don't have an Ultima but do have 
the 17 and 24 Canon TSE lenses. If you compose 
and focus only on the image coming to you by way 
of the mirror you really con't use the tilt 
function on these lenses. On the other hand, in 
magnified Live View mode accurate tilts are a 
piece of cake. I've done a lot of table top stuff 
with LF, and I wish I had had something like 
this. It truly is a revelation, and no dark cloth 
and loupes required while hot lights are burning 
into your ears.

Live View on this camera (and the m4/3 cameras 
I'm familiar with) is accurate enough to 
realistically and correctly measure and judge the 
effects of focus shift in various lenses, let 
alone accurately set up tilts or focus macro 
objects. The fact that the screen is as bright at 
f/16 as at f/2.8 is a huge help.

At 3:29 PM -0500 7/15/10, George Lottermoser wrote:
>I agree totally Mark.
>I continue to NOT understand
>the quest for easier, less, smaller, cheaper, less, etc ?
>Yes iPhones et al are fun and
>in the hands of skilled visionaries,
>can produce art.
>I just did a series of macro images
>using the 5D on the Ultima with an 80 Rodenstock Apo enlarging lens
>with the intention of using shifts and tilts.
>The viewing screens (both the original and the 
>brightscreen) just suck (for this kind of work).
>So I replaced the 5D with the R8/DMR
>and immediately found my self in big, huge, 
>heavy, difficult, tilt/shift macro heaven;
>achieving exactly what I envisioned in my mind.
>The only body that could be better (given my lenses and other kit)
>would be an M9/90macro/Viso because of the additional real estate;
>or better yet a 39CFV, Leaf Aptus II-7 to 10, or 
>PhaseOne 25+, 45+ or 65+, back.
>With the M9 mega-tool - the question is not 
>"what what other camera can I get to make macro 
>The question is "What can I get to do macro with this incredible M9 tool?"
>If all I had was an M9 and wanted to do macro
>I'd be all over the 90 macro and viso with bellows and all sorts of lenses.
>(but going from M9 to 1.5, 4/3 or smaller? What is the point?
>unless all we're talking about is "oh look 
>there's a neat bug to show on the web" type of 
>(The 5D remains a fun and functional tool with Canon lenses)
>and of course YMMV
>George Lottermoser


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