Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/07/06

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Subject: [Leica] Photoshopping for Truth? (and a sneaky real estate FS Friday)
From: images at comporium.net (Tina Manley)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 21:55:09 -0400
References: <C8594DEC.342FA%chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com> <C859555B.642D0%mark@rabinergroup.com>

This is too depressing.  Removing the lady altered the truth of the photo.
 Period.  It made Obama look isolated and alone.  That was not the truth.
 This is a very slippery slope and we're sliding down it too fast.

Tina

On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 9:49 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
wrote:

> > This has nothing to do with press freedom or Stalin or Hitler. Those
> > dictators ORDERED an unfree press to delete people from photos. There is
> no
> > such control over the press in the USA or the UK and if a publication
> alters
> > a photo, its because THEY chose to, not because the government ordered
> it.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Chris Crawford
> > Fine Art Photography
> > Fort Wayne, Indiana
> > 260-424-0897
>
>
> And the issue might be WHY did they choose to do so in our free press.
> And the answer in this case is I think they wanted to communicate more
> concisely and directly what was going and and what their story was. And
> this
> being the reality of magazine covers conceptualization from day one to now.
> If they distorted the meaning of what as going on I'd take issue with that
> but that lady being there  or not being there did not change the story. It
> just cluttered the image.
> All they wanted was a more clean graphic.
>
> The other thing the editors didn't have to take out was the smell of dead
> fish and the  sound of the wind and 3D.
> That a photograph contains some kind of  "truth" is not an idea I'd like to
> propagate.
> There could have been an army of protesters just to the left simply not
> include in the picture by the photographer. An army of trained seals.
> A photograph is never the truth. Its ink on a piece of paper.
> And the world as I know it does not consist of pieces of flat paper with
> ink
> on it. It's smell o-rama. And wide field 3d with sound.
> Still photography is a very thin abstraction from reality.
>
> [Rabs]
> Mark William Rabiner
>
>
>
>
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-- 
Tina Manley, ASMP
www.tinamanley.com


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