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Subject: [Leica] Sony cleans up; takes no prisoners.
From: Frank.Dernie at (Frank Dernie)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 09:15:58 +0100
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Wow Mark, apart from some very specific uses I dislike the look of lenses 
wider than 35mm. If there are any people in the frame anyway...
I still consider a 50 to be normal, and find I use 35 mostly. Wider than 
that I use once in a blue moon.

On 27 May, 2010, at 06:40, Mark Rabiner wrote:

>> 24mm lens. That's been a really popular mainstream focal length over the 
>> years
>> hasn't it.
>> Steve
>> On 26 May 2010, at 21:54, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>>> t's very cool and cute  and flat 16mm pancake 2.8 becomes a very capable
>>> 24mm lens for these NEX cameras. My advanced math skills tells me that 
>>> lens
>>> would be a 32mm if  they were talking about the crazy useless 2x crop
>>> cameras.
> Actually Steve Yes over the past ten or fifteen yes. A very popular and
> conservative choice a 24 with a full frame camera.
> The X1 comes with a LEICA ELMARIT 24 mm f/2.8 ASPH superglue to it so you
> are shooting with a 35. That's the most widely critized aspect of the 
> camera
> other than some possible slowness its needs a wider version. Which I'm sure
> is in the wings.
> When I started out in the late 70's all my street photographer friends were
> either using 28's or 24's. Most of them 24 2.8 Nikkor.  And that's what I
> was using. A couple of tight wad ultra conservative types used a 28; that I
> knew personally. I liked the results my 24mm friends were getting. So I got
> that as my first serious lens.
> The main lens now  starting out and then on from there is is an ultrawide
> zoom. Or just ultrawide.
> For the Leica M in effect that wide tri elmar out now. 16-18-21
> A fixed lens; the Leica Super-Elmar-M 18mm f/3.8 ASPH  would be the one to
> get to start out with as your first lens if you didn't want the tri elmar
> wide.
> Your 24 is when you want reach. Its your long lens.
> The days of photographers starting out with a 35 are long gone.
> And certainly a 50.
> We keep moving closer to our subjects and at the same time wanting more
> angle of view.
> And by the way if you are using an 18mm 3.5 with an M8 what do you get?
> A 24.
> [Rabs]
> Mark William Rabiner
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