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Subject: [Leica] Now Westerly sailboats
From: charlie at droolassicpark.com (Charlie Meyer)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 11:55:32 -0400
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I had a British Seagull for my Cal 20 in Honolulu.  Off Oahu, the wind  
would die in late afternoon, usually when the beer was done.  Being a  
product of British engineering, it could run on strong black coffee if  
it wanted to run at all. The Seagull: great for nautical charm, a  
better boat anchor than a motor if one needed it to actually run.

Charlie

On Apr 15, 2010, at 10:53 AM, Richard Taylor wrote:

> Larry - Amazing!  You actually own one of these things.  The Nomad  
> was one of the small cruisers I was very interested in when I was  
> seriously thinking of buying a small boat.  The other was the Stone  
> Horse that I've talked about here before.
>
> I have real weakness for efficient design and the Nomad, despite  
> being, shall we say, err... gorgeousness-challenged, was certainly  
> that.  I loved the boat but nothing came of it, or of the Stone  
> Horse, for that matter.   I ended up buying a Thistle that I raced  
> for a dozen years.
>
> Now, just tell me that you power it with a Seagull outboard and my  
> life will be complete.  :-)
>
> Regards,
>
> Dick
>
>
>
> On Apr 14, 2010, at 9:57 PM, Lawrence Zeitlin wrote:
>
>> The breadth of interest of Luggers continues to amaze me. Westerly  
>> twin keel
>> sailboats are a comparative rarity in the USA but at least two  
>> Luggers have
>> owned, or wanted to own one. Westerlys are not the Leicas of  
>> sailboats, more
>> like the Mack trucks. Strongly built, almost indestructible, but  
>> slow and
>> not overly responsive.
>>
>>
>> As part of our personal navy we own a Westerly Nomad, an English  
>> twin keel
>> auxiliary sailboat. We named it "Quark" since the Irishman we  
>> bought it from
>> was named Finnegan. James Joyce fans will know the derivation of  
>> the name.
>> It was extremely seaworthy and had full headroom, provided you were  
>> shorter
>> than 5'10". It slept 4 and had an enclosed head and a small galley.  
>> The twin
>> keels and skeg protecting the prop and rudder permitted it to sit  
>> upright on
>> the bottom if the tide ran out. It could be towed on a flatbed  
>> trailer
>> without any supports or bracing. We sailed it all along the  
>> Northeast US
>> coast from Maryland to Maine, up the Hudson and the Erie Canal, and  
>> trailed
>> it to Florida for a couple of months of boating in the Keys.
>>
>>
>> We used the boat every summer and a few sabbatical winters from  
>> 1969 through
>> 1996. When I retired from the university, I took my unused accrued  
>> sick
>> leave pay and bought a larger offshore type motorsailer in Florida.  
>> We
>> sailed up theIntracoastal Waterway and used until the end of last  
>> summer.
>> Now that my kids have moved away and started families of their own,  
>> it was
>> too big for two geriatric sailors to handle. And expensive too. In  
>> boating
>> you pay by the foot. Besides it was overkill for sailing in the  
>> relatively
>> placid waters of the Hudson Valley and Long Island Sound. We still  
>> have the
>> older Quark although it is under wraps and parked on its trailer  
>> next to our
>> garage. Right now I am refurbishing it for next season. It has had  
>> a long,
>> well deserved rest.
>>
>>
>> Here is a photo of Westerly Nomad "Quark"
>>
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Larry+Z/Quark+in+water.jpg.html
>>
>> It is the boat just left of center in our local harbor.
>>
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Larry+Z/Senesqua+harbor.jpg.html
>>
>> A main advantage of twin keel boats is that they trail easily without
>> supports.
>>
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Larry+Z/Trailing+Quark.jpg.html
>>
>> A page from the Westerly 1964 catalog.
>>
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Larry+Z/img002.jpg.html
>>
>>
>>
>>  Twin keel yachts have been popular in Britain for more than fifty  
>> years.
>> They have a number of practical advantages and a notable  
>> disadvantage. The
>> twin keels and the rudder skeg provide a stable tripod-like support  
>> if the
>> yacht takes the mud in areas where the mooring dries out at low  
>> tide. The
>> yacht stays level and does not flop over on the side as would a  
>> single keel
>> yacht. This stability when grounded permits the owner to  
>> intentionally beach
>> the yacht to clean the bottom at low tide. The yacht does not  
>> require a
>> cradle when stored for the winter and, if small enough, can be  
>> towed easily
>> on a flat bed trailer. The relatively shallow draft makes launching  
>> easier.
>> The disadvantage is, of course, poorer performance under  
>> sail.significantly
>> hampered. For a given lateral plane, twin keels have greater wetted  
>> area
>> than a single keel. The greater frictional resistance simply makes  
>> the twin
>> keel designs slightly slower on all points of sailing.
>>
>>  Larry Z
>>
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In reply to: Message from lrzeitlin at gmail.com (Lawrence Zeitlin) ([Leica] Arnudel photographica (now Westerly sailboats))
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