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Subject: [Leica] 3.5 cm. Elmar
From: robertmeier at usjet.net (Robert Meier)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 10:44:44 -0500 (CDT)
References: <00d601cad739$2b6382d0$822a8870$@net> <55F1C43F-C146-4125-BE52-2D477346BB2C@usjet.net> <BF249C0300D748DCA9B4141513DE5D9E@jimnichols> <7E27773B9C054B028519D80A7ACFB23E@jimnichols> <0B0D6930-1E45-4EFA-9BF1-C3DBE532138E@gmail.com> <q2y3cad89991004092015v35a1ccd7h730650e5a9864072@mail.gmail.com> <k2q19b6d42d1004092053q72cbac50r54157804ec75500c@mail.gmail.com> <w2q3cad89991004092207k8c7312ckdaace1f3e1a6530d@mail.gmail.com> <g2t19b6d42d1004092221z3d4a6ba0jee7335f184b55d16@mail.gmail.com> <t2m3cad89991004092301o1803778ez562143aa09735353@mail.gmail.com> <y2p19b6d42d1004092306ife197dackf614c08e0d0047d9@mail.gmail.com> <2F783A08-4883-4FA4-AFCE-42BBC2F35C26@usjet.net> <32D1DC6C-4A62-474E-A075-EE1609D97433@mac.com>

That makes sense.  Thanks.

On Apr 10, 2010, at 10:15 AM, George Lottermoser wrote:

> 3000ish K light source on sax player.
> 5000ish K light in background
> camera set for 3000 K
>
> Regards,
> George Lottermoser
> george at imagist.com
> http://www.imagist.com
> http://www.imagist.com/blog
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>
> On Apr 10, 2010, at 10:02 AM, Robert Meier wrote:
>
>> Vince,
>>
>> What is your speculation about how he got the background so blue  
>> while keeping the horn player's color more-or-less normal?
>>
>> Robert
>>
>> On Apr 10, 2010, at 1:06 AM, Vince Passaro wrote:
>>
>>> yes, I have seen that, and the uppermost picture, of the alto sax  
>>> guy in
>>> Miami Beach, is a great picture that has stuck in my mind a long  
>>> time and
>>> made the lens magically desirable. Of course it costs like 2  
>>> grand if i
>>> recall.
>>>
>>> Onward and upward.  Best of luck with the sales and the picture  
>>> taking and
>>> all that.
>>>
>>> Vince
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 2:01 AM, Jayanand Govindaraj  
>>> <jayanand at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> They are all AF, but 1st generation AF, so they are not speed  
>>>> demons in
>>>> focusing, but they do the job well. The new 24mmf1.4  is very, very
>>>> tempting
>>>> - have you seen this:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.bobkrist.com/blog/fast-wide-and-handsome/
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Jayanand
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Vince Passaro  
>>>> <passaro.vince at gmail.com
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ooohhhh. i thought you said the only nikon MF lenses you were  
>>>>> keeping
>>>> were
>>>>> the 105 and the 55 macro.  you mean all those primes you named  
>>>>> (50/1.4,
>>>>> 35/2, 85/1.8, 24/2.8 etc) are MF lenses or you have them all in  
>>>>> AF? I'm
>>>>> confused. But that's nothing new. My main point was if you have  
>>>>> the wide
>>>>> angle primes you should hold on to them. From 35 on up you'll  
>>>>> do just as
>>>>> well or better with the newer AF and AFS lenses but I don't  
>>>>> think that's
>>>>> the
>>>>> case among the wides.
>>>>>
>>>>> All those f2.8 zooms are the size of Folger cans ain't they? No  
>>>>> matter.
>>>>> After 40 years of course I wouldn't blame you for keeping one  
>>>>> camera and
>>>>> one
>>>>> lens and letting it all go. Interesting thought: what would it be?
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, and if you're spending a little money on the Nikon folks  
>>>>> they got a
>>>> new
>>>>> 24mm f1.4 (I think it's 1.4) that looks oh so fine.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Jayanand Govindaraj  
>>>>> <jayanand at gmail.com
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Vince,
>>>>>> I am down to 3 Nikon zooms for most of my photography - 17-55  
>>>>>> f2.8DX,
>>>>>> 70-200f2.8 and the 200-400 f4, with the 1.4x and 1.7x  
>>>>>> teleconverters. I
>>>>>> also
>>>>>> have the 50mmf1.4, 85mmf1.8 and 180mmf2.8 which I use as a  
>>>>>> travel kit,
>>>>> and
>>>>>> my son (who also shoots Nikon) basically uses the 24mmf2.8,  
>>>>>> 35mmf2,
>>>> 18-70
>>>>>> kit lens and my old 80-400 zoom. Between us I would say we  
>>>>>> have the
>>>> Nikon
>>>>>> primes pretty much covered as well! I have the two MF lenses I
>>>> mentioned
>>>>>> before and the Leica R 100mm APO converted to Nikon mount.  
>>>>>> There is
>>>>> really
>>>>>> too much equipment even after getting rid of a cupboard full  
>>>>>> of stuff.
>>>> If
>>>>> I
>>>>>> get the full frame D700 or equivalent, I suppose I will have  
>>>>>> to get the
>>>>> new
>>>>>> 16-35 to go with it and replace my 17-55 which is a DX lens,  
>>>>>> and maybe
>>>>>> upgrade some of the primes. I also converted my old D70 to IR,  
>>>>>> but have
>>>>> not
>>>>>> given it a workout as yet. 40 years of lethargy in selling camera
>>>>> equipment
>>>>>> really comes home to roost - better to keep selling as you buy!
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Jayanand
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Vince Passaro <
>>>> passaro.vince at gmail.com
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jayanand,
>>>>>>> That's an amazing list.
>>>>>>> If you get the D700 (and I can only cheer you on since I love  
>>>>>>> that
>>>>> camera
>>>>>>> and hope to buy one or whatever its next generation may be  
>>>>>>> and have
>>>>>>> researched it a great deal and can say, from my researches at  
>>>>>>> least,
>>>>> you
>>>>>>> cannot get a better full frame camera for that money) then I'd
>>>> consider
>>>>>>> holding on to a few other pieces of your Nikon glass. MF on  
>>>>>>> these
>>>>> cameras
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> extremely easy and even working without meter is extremely  
>>>>>>> easy since
>>>>>> your
>>>>>>> experienced guess will be close and you get immediate info on  
>>>>>>> how to
>>>>> fine
>>>>>>> tune it.  Of your Nikon glass, if you have these, I advise  
>>>>>>> keeping:
>>>> any
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> the 20mm lenses, the 24/2.8, the 28/2.0, the 28/2.8 if it's  
>>>>>>> the AIs
>>>>>>> focusing
>>>>>>> to .2 m (which is the one I have; I've heard that the other  
>>>>>>> is not so
>>>>>>> good).
>>>>>>> The newer 35 AFS and 85 AFS beat out their brilliant MF  
>>>>>>> counterparts
>>>>> but
>>>>>>> none of those other primes do.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's my opinion anyway.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Vince
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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