Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/04/02

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Subject: [Leica] Maybe topic change ... going digital....Re: M7/MP only 5% of US Leica Sales...
From: photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 18:05:44 +0200
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I find it silly to get emotional about one technology's replacement by 
another. 

As for the calculations, looking in my Lightroom catalog, I see 6015 images 
shot in 2009. Those are the ones that survived the usual culling, where 
between 1/4 and 1/3 of the images from the card are deleted altogether. So 
this implies that I shot the equivalent of more than 200 rolls of film last 
year, so using your $20/roll figure this is more than $4K in one year, and I 
am an amateur. Given what I paid for my M8, it has paid for itself in cost 
savings in less than 1 year. I do not count the lenses since I would need 
those for film anyway, nor the computer, since I would have this iMac even 
if I were not into photography.

Nathan

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On Apr 2, 2010, at 5:52 PM, Vick Ko wrote:

> Ha ha Tina, I chuckled when I read "can't afford film and developing".  I 
> am guessing your daughter didn't buy the 5D. 
> Digital M is the epitome of "pay up front, $2500 or much much more", 
> rather than the roughly $20 for developing / printing a roll of film, 
> gradually.  So $2500 is 120 rolls of film - that's more than 2 rolls a 
> week constantly for a year.  If you are a recreational user, consider how 
> long it would take to shoot that. 
> Now I know, the economics change considerably with lower cost cameras.
> 
> For me, I really wanted an M8 and couldn't stand the anguish of the 
> rationalization any more.  And like Frank said, once the M8 came down to 
> $2500, it fell into my "willing to afford" range.  I suppose an M9 is 
> within what I'm willing to afford, but the M8 is just fine, thanks.
> 
> And I've been selling significant parts of my film classical cameras 
> collection.  It has been less painful (emotionally) than I thought.  I 
> still don't want to sell lenses, because many of them can be used on my M 
> or Pana 4/3rd's camera.  I think adapters are just wonderful, and the 
> lenses provide the soul of the image.  But no more need to have "one of 
> each" of a camera line.
> 
> And, I'm guilty of taking the digi-M out much more than a film M.  Every 
> time I click a film M, I think "that's another 75 cents, versus no thought 
> of that clicking the digi-M, but in fact, I paid already up-front.
> 
> ...not sure I made any sense...but, I'm a bit saddened that I might never 
> buy another new Leica item again, especially lenses.  Too expensive.
> 
> ...Vick
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Tina Manley wrote:
>> It's the same with my son and daughter who both have my old M6's.  Laura
>> also has my Canon 5D and, although she prefers the Leica, she can't afford
>> film and developing, so she uses the 5D.  Tim also has my old Leica DLux.
>> He is too impatient to wait for film to be developed and only uses the
>> DLux.
>> 
>> Tina
> 
> 
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