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Subject: [Leica] three questions: C41 b/w film; Mamiya DM22; why no US version of GF1 w 20mm kit?
From: steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour)
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:36:40 -0700
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On Mar 29, 2010, at 8:32 PM, Vince Passaro wrote:

> Nah you misunderstood: "that's why I'm asking people's opinion's...." about
> which one they think is best. The Kodak or the Ilford. Kodak seems to be
> winning which was my experience. The Ilford was too low contrast in my
> experience.

who cares "what people think", it only matters what you think...

basically...


Steve



> 
> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 11:07 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at 
> gmail.com>wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Mar 29, 2010, at 8:05 PM, Vince Passaro wrote:
>> 
>>> I lvoe Tri X but cannot process it myself and find it increasingly
>> expensive
>>> to have it done. The C41s can be done anywhere by anybody and put on
>> disk.
>>> That's why I'm asking people's opinions.
>> 
>> C41bw is terrific for the reasons stated, what's to ask ?...
>> 
>> it's clear,
>> 
>> 
>> Steve
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Ken Carney <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 3/28/2010 12:13 AM, Vince Passaro wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I'm contemplating C41 b and w film. I've used the Kodak and liked it
>>>>> sometimes and not others (dependong on factors I was too ignorant to
>> learn
>>>>> how to control at the time, I suspect). My impression though was that
>>>>> Koday
>>>>> was the best of them but I do recollect an Ilford that some people
>>>>> liked...
>>>>> perhaps it was that 50 ASA of theirs?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anyone using C41 and feel knowledgeable and opinionated enough to
>> declare
>>>>> differences and preferences?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Or, here's another question:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I see on B&H site that there's a Mamiya medium format digital camera
>> for
>>>>> under $10K, called the DM22. Anyone know about it, have an opinon, etc?
>>>>> for
>>>>> the price it comes with an 80mm lens, which I guess is kind of an
>>>>> equivalent
>>>>> to normal size lens?
>>>>> 
>>>>> And finally: among you GF1 fanatics out there -- does anyone know why
>> you
>>>>> can buy the GF! with the 20mm as a kit in Europe but, after a brief
>>>>> availablility, not here? (here being the good ole' US of A folks. TGeam
>>>>> America. Burn the camera in order to save it. Semper Fi. all that.)_
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> 
>>>>> Vince
>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> The Kodak C41 film scans very well, and that is a good thing because it
>>>> will not last that long as a film negative.  Plus, you can use digital
>> ICE
>>>> with the C41 films.  I never had much luck printing either the Kodak or
>>>> Ilford C41 films in the darkroom.   That is TriX etc. territory.  If I
>> had
>>>> to go back to film, I would try Kodak C41 if available and a pro lab to
>>>> process.  Remember that if circumstances permit you can bracket ISO's
>> with
>>>> these films and likely come up with something you will like.
>>>> 
>>>> Ken Carney
>>>> Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Replies: Reply from passaro.vince at gmail.com (Vince Passaro) ([Leica] three questions: C41 b/w film; Mamiya DM22; why no US version of GF1 w 20mm kit?)
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Message from passaro.vince at gmail.com (Vince Passaro) ([Leica] three questions: C41 b/w film; Mamiya DM22; why no US version of GF1 w 20mm kit?)