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Subject: [Leica] Question 2 this evening: historical prices
From: jhnichols at lighttube.net (Jim Nichols)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 21:56:37 -0500
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Vince,

I pulled the car price from memory, and I find it is low.  The average car 
price in 1955 was $1900.  So, in reality, the M 3 cost about one-fourth of 
the price of a car.  Sorry for the faulty memory.

Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Vince Passaro" <passaro.vince at gmail.com>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Question 2 this evening: historical prices


> Fascinating, thanks. The table is quite legible.
>
> So, the half-car price analogy is valuable. But dig this one. I just found
> an article from a 1955 Dartmouth campus newspaper announcing that tuition
> (plus fees) would rise in 1956 at Dartmouth as it had at Princeton and 
> Yale
> from $800 to $980.
>
> So back then an M3 was half the price of a new car. An M3 with summicron
> lens was about half a year's tuition inthe Ivy League. And now a Leica M9
> and Summicron lens would be between 10000 and 12,000; a new car decently
> appointed family car about $24,000 on average; and Ivy League tuition is 
> now
> $50,000.
>
> Ivy League tuition doubled in equivalent dollars over the next 20 years; 
> so
> that in 1975 when I started at Columbia it was $3400 but if it had stayed
> only at inflation it should have been about half that.  Adjusted for
> inflation 1955's M3/summicron would by 75 have been about $950.  I wonder
> what an M5 with Summicron was by then?
>
> My mother bought a new Ford Fairlane around 1970 for $2400 so I'm betting 
> it
> was $3000 at least.
>
> More on this as I work out what it is I'm thinking about....
>
> Thanks to all for comments.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Jim Nichols 
> <jhnichols at lighttube.net>wrote:
>
>> Vince,
>>
>> I have the November 1955 Leica Product Directory.
>>
>> Catalog    Code
>> Number    Word                       Item Retail Price
>> ******    ******    ********************************        ********
>> 10,150    IGEMO    Leica M 3 without lens $288.00
>> 10,155    IMARO    Leica M 3 with 50mm Elmar f/3.5 lens 348.00
>> 10,161    ISUMO    Leica M 3 with 50mm Summicron f/2 lens
>> 447.00
>> 10,165    ISAIO      Leica M 3 with 50mm Summarit f/1.5 lens 468.00
>>
>> Ask about any other items from this catalog that you might like for your
>> collection, and I will be happy to look them up for you.
>>
>> Jim Nichols
>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vince Passaro" <
>> passaro.vince at gmail.com>
>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 12:31 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Question 2 this evening: historical prices
>>
>>
>>
>>  Doug many thanks this has been helpful. I assume you're working off your
>>> own
>>> memory/records of your purchases? What does IIRC mean? And NOS?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Doug Herr <wildlightphoto at 
>>> earthlink.net
>>> >wrote:
>>>
>>>  Vince Passaro wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >I'm looking for actual at-the-time they were marketed dollar prices 
>>>> >for
>>>> >certain historical cameras, for a couple of academic reasons. Does
>>>> >anyone
>>>> >have a source/sources? For instance I would love to know M3 prices
>>>> >through
>>>> >the 1950s; Nikon F prices 1959 to, say, 1980; Leica prices in the 
>>>> >1970s.
>>>> >
>>>> >Any suggestions will be much appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> IIRC a Nikon F in 1972 or so was US$310.  NOS Leicaflex SL in 1979 was
>>>> US$510.
>>>>
>>>> Doug Herr
>>>> Birdman of Sacramento
>>>> http://www.wildlightphoto.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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