Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/03/13

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Subject: [Leica] Be's Soccer Game
From: hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:42:36 +1000
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Mark the point is that by shooting Raw the WB is not set. Whatever selection
that is made in the camera,  It is just noted in the data that accompanies
the file. That data has absolutley NO effect on the actual image except the
choice of default conversion dependant on your convertor configuration, just
as colour space is not set either (but may commonly default to your camera's
native colour space I think). You really need to think differently with Raw.
If you are capturing via other than Raw then of course it is completely
valid to get these things just right (and I'm sure that experienced pros get
good at it (I'm not one)..

Cheers
Geoff
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman


On 13 March 2010 17:39, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:

> > I shoot RAW, but see noticeable variations in color temperature between
> frames
> > in the LR import.
> >
> > ric
> >
> >
> > On Mar 12, 2010, at 11:29 PM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote:
> >
> >> Auto takes a good stab at it in LR or ACR but you can experiment to
> >> your heart's content non-destructively.
> >> The only value of setting the auto WB in the camera (for Raw) is to get
> a
> >> suggested starting point. Whateve you set or mis-set there has zero
> effect
> >> on the recorded image and is just metadata.
>
> On my old camera I can choose the color temperature I want to shoot at.
> And actually I feel pretty confident on color temperature with all the
> color
> film I've shot with type B and type A and corrective Kelvin color filters
> and all that I feel like a walking color temperature meter. That would be
> easy enough to test out with this setting with my camera.
> So last week for the first time I fired off some frames walking down the
> street just by guessing what the color temperature was and putting the
> number in there.  Looked good to me. I'm going to do more.
> But with the Nikons the Auto color balance does not mess up that much.
> It just only goes so warm. You can take more warm out with other settings.
> Like the one I just mentioned.
> But this is all busy work if your shooting raw becaue as Geoff is
> mentioning
> this is easy enough to just do afterwards when you have the time to think.
> Just fix one in a situation and match the rest to it.
> I guess if you ever had to shoot jpegs you'd want things to all be perfect
> I'd hate to be put I that position.
>
> There's always a preset setting "pre" we've got where you aim your camrea
> at
> a grey card and hit the button and that's your white balance setting.
> If Leica doesn't have that yet I'm sure they will soon.
>
> [Rabs]
> Mark William Rabiner
>
>
>
>
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