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Subject: [Leica] My paper experience
From: richard at imagecraft.com (Richard Man)
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:34:31 -0800
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Not the Velvet Fine Art yet. I guess I have two new paper to try next.
Thanks.

On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Chris Crawford <
chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote:

> Richard,
>
> Have you tried Epson Velvet Fine art? Of all the cotton rag art papers I
> have tried, this one had the deepest blacks. I'm using Epson printers with
> Ultrachrome ink (2200 and R2400). I have lately been using the Ilford Gold
> Fiber a lot as well.
>
>
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> On 3/11/10 1:45 AM, "Richard Man" <richard at imagecraft.com> wrote:
>
> > In printing for my next portfolio review, here are some comments on
> inkjet
> > paper that I tried this time.
> >
> > Firstly, at the last portfolio review, I did ~12 darkroom prints on Adox
> > MCC. There really is nothing that beats the silver gelatin print look...
> >
> > Second, my monitor is a calibrated ColorEdge CE240W - a reasonably
> > "middle-end" color correctable monitor. The next step up would be
> something
> > 3x-4x more expensive at $5000+.
> >
> > My printer is a Z3100 and I make all my ICC profiles.
> >
> > - Best value: Epson Ultra Presentation Matte / Enhanced Matte / Archival
> > Matte etc. They change the names a few times, but it's their "low end"
> > stuff, over the cheap "photo paper." It's quite good. The best matte
> paper
> > is probably no more than 10-15% better, by any measure. If you like
> matte,
> > this can be your work print paper, or even for exhibit and sales.
> >
> > - Hahnemuhle Fine Arts Pearl. A few years ago, I quite like it.
> Semi-gloss
> > luster look. Now it's totally out classed by the new paper. Not
> recommended.
> >
> > - Hahnemuhle photo rag, photo rag bright white etc. There are at least
> 2-3
> > variations. One of the best fine arts matte paper. My biggest complaint
> is
> > that it's very fragile. You look at it funny and then there's a scratch
> on
> > the print!
> >
> > Now a general commentary on matte paper. They look like... fine arts
> paper,
> > like watercolor. I found the dark is not quite dark enough, and in fact,
> if
> > you have a very dark print (e.g. night time), it can look downright
> muddy.
> > My wife, coming from a traditional artist background, like matte paper
> more
> > than the ones below. I think they work best for art work reproduction.
> >
> > - Ilford Gold Fibre. This is one of the first and still more expensive
> > Baryta paper. It has the best dynamic range that I can see. It prints
> more
> > contrasty than my screen, this would be the one I'd use if I want that
> > slight gloss look.
> >
> > - Harman FB Fiber Matte, Warmtone and normal. This is currently my
> favorite
> > paper. It's matte but less flat than the photo rag matte. The prints
> match
> > my screen more than other paper. Only thing it does not do well on is the
> > night shots. Again it just looks muddy.
> >
> > While the above two have baryta and suppose to look like darkroom prints,
> > they don't. OTOH, they look more like darkroom prints than the older
> paper.
> >
> > ****
> > YMMV etc. etc.
>
>
>
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