Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/03/08
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Wow, that 35'lux ASPH is really brutally sharp. That's my only 35mm so I have nothing to compare to it myself. On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 12:21 AM, Peter Klein <pklein at threshinc.com> wrote: > Vince has a point. Which is how I justify having three 35's: > - A Summilux ASPH: Fast and modern, hard-edged. A little focus shift > between f/2 and 5.6. > - A CV 35/1.2 Nokton: Very fast, and despite being an ASPH, with a somewhat > classic rendering, and a bit lower contrast) Much kinder to women over 30, > but big and heavy. Usually sharp enough. No practical focus shift). > - A Summicron v.4: Slower, but very sharp stopped down, and classic > rendering near wide-open. My walkabout and outdoor lens. > Since 35 is my main focal length on the M8, I like to have a choice of how > the lens renders. The trouble is, 35's are more expensive than 50's. > I wouldn't have the Summilux ASPH at all, except for our own Joseph Yao, > bless him. He sold the lens at a very reasonable price a few years back > when it was merely ridiculously-priced by Leica. Now it's stratospheric. > I > can only imagine what the new lens will cost. Still, when you want > razor-sharp wide open, it delivers. > > The current Summilux ASPH does do edges very hard, as Vince says. The way > to get around that is not to sharpen at all in post-processing. Or > sometimes use another lens. > > The focus shift is real. I used to worry about it more until Henning > advised me to ignore it. Now I will still compensate slightly at f/2.8-4 if > I can, but if I can't, I just focus on the closest thing I want in the > focus > zone and shoot anyway, and it's usually fine. For five grand, I can > continue to do that. > > As to "sharpness as porn," it's kind of like Adam and Eve eating the apple. > Once you've seen how sharp things can be, feel naked without it. You > always > want it. Or you think you do. Often, I prefer a more classic rendering. > So > I tell myself: "Self, shoot with your other lenses sometimes. They're sharp > enough. Mandler and Kobashi know the old magic." > > Just for fun, here are two galleries, one with the Summilux ASPH, one with > the Nokton. Same place, same lighting, even some of the same people. > > 35/1.4 Summilux ASPH: > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/friends/Rosa90/ > CV 35/1.2 > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/friends/NewYear2010/ > > --Peter > > Vince wrote: > >> >> The ASPH lenses in combo with the M8 and M9, which many luggers use, >> sometimes border on the-almost-too-sharp to my eye. Except in the widest >> (big landscape/seascape) views they can lack subtlety -- there is a >> tendency >> for the more intimate pictures to look as if they were processed by an ad >> agency for placement in Time. (I keep thinking they would look astounding >> in >> black and white however; perhaps Luis will fill that gap now that he's >> gallavanting around with his M8.... ) The pictures these newer lenses take >> of clouds and the sky's infinitely various colors are amazing -- but those >> are soft things. The hard edges of the world seem with these lenses to be >> harder even than they are: as in cinema and other art forms, there's a >> possibility we've reached the natural end of the mimetic impulse in art, a >> 10,000 year progression -- in that we can now do reality better than >> reality >> can do itself. Which makes the experience just a little pornographic. >> >> Just some Sunday ruminations, with fleisch all too well sitzed. >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- // richard <http://www.imagecraft.com/> blog: < http://imagecraft.wordpress.com> // portfolio: <http://www.dragonsgate.net/pub/richard/PICS/AnotherCalifornia > // mailing lists: <http://www.imagecraft.com/contact.html> [ For technical support on ImageCraft products, please include all previous replies in your msgs. ]