[Leica] Zeiss Wide Angle 35mm f/2 Biogon T* ZM

[photo.forrest at earthlink.net (Philip Forrest)]

The problem with this argument Mark, is that the R&D of a modern ZM
lens with modern coatings and the benefit of very stable, very precise,
very consistent production is superior to what Leica had in the 1980's
and prior. With computer technology leveling the playing field these
days, that statement probably holds up for the 1990's too. 
Any modern prime lens of a manufacturer's top-shelf line will perform
better than Leica's offerings from 40 years ago simply due to
technology. The formulations are more mature, cutting edge, coatings
are better and the production runs are consistent. 
Now, if it's the "Leica look" of decades past that you want in your
photo, then great, but a new 35 Biogon will blow a 1960's 35 Summicron
out of the water when the final image is viewed. Simply because of the
maturity of technology.
Used lenses are even more of a crapshoot as tolerances widen up with
years of wear, so a "bargain" Leica lens may not be a bargain at all if
it has to be CLA'd.

Argue, argue, argue.
All I can say is that I'm having a blast using the lenses that I own
from a Jupiter-8 to a chrome Rigid Summicron to a 10.5cm Nikkor on my
M8. I'm not waiting for anything anymore. It's awesome to use a
top-shelf Leica digital every day for school and work. All the lenses
have their individual look and personalities. I choose them for that,
not because of their name nor how much I paid for one over another.

Phil Forrest


On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 18:14:47 -0500
Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:

> > Wendy,
> > 
> > Only to those who want it to be.  While I'm not a fan of the ZM
> > offerings, I did look at them due to their cost, but rejected them
> > due to build.  On the other hand Leica has their Summarit line
> > which are much lower in cost, just a bit more than the ZM
> > offerings, and a max aperture of 2.5, and actually Leica designs,
> > made by Leica in Germany.  And performance and build are up to
> > Leica specs.  You may want to take a look at them as an alternative
> > to the more expensive Summicrons, and Summilux's.  Several LUG
> > members have them and like them.
> > 
> > Gene
> 
> 
> I'm sure you've not forgotten the not buying new option, Gene.
> A Summicron from the
> 80's
> 70's
> 60's
> 50's
>     By any other name.
> Another generation of optical level. Another price point.
> And not feeling or looking like junk. But in some ways having a
> better feel and look than the new stuff.
> 
> Leica has plenty of German loving rich guys but has also had lots of
> counter culture shooters with holes in their pants and brassy cameras
> and very used lenes. And a stack of fine prints to show for it.
> 
> [Rabs]
> Mark William Rabiner
> 
> 
> 
> 
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