Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/01/28

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Subject: [Leica] M9, lag time, perception and other things
From: richard.lists at gmail.com (Richard Man)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 22:12:49 -0800
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The party line is that since it's a different sensor, it does not give
true exposure or white balance etc. etc.

Of course, now with the mirrorless system, it does even better!

And I believe at least one of the newer Sony Alpha also uses a secondary 
sensor.


On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Gary Todoroff
<datamaster at northcoastphotos.com> wrote:
> Likewise, Ted. Lag-time was something I never thought of until some of the
> early digital cameras. I just posted the thoughts below on the MyOlympus
> e-list this week, bemoaning the fact of unacceptable shutter lag-time on
> every live-view DSLR they have made since the E-330:
>
> "For my money, the real revolution at Olympus was with the E-330 (can
> it be almost four years ago already?) and its second sensor for live
> view with immediate shutter response (Mode A). I'll never understand
> why Olympus abandoned their own revolution. The first time I had a
> chance to try Live View shooting on [the newer] E-30 was at a carnival. The
> camera owner and I bent over the flipped-out LCD screen, our body
> language implying that we were studying the camera as I framed a
> candid portrait shot just a couple feet away. "Ah, there is the look
> I'm waiting for" - click. Then clack,clack, click . . . the person
> had already moved half way out of the frame by the time the shutter fired!"
>
> Every other DSLR with Live View uses the main image sensor to display the
> Live View image on the LCD. I can sometimes be prophetic out to about an
> eight of a second, but the lag-time in Live View (except on the E-330) is
> unacceptable. The Decisive Moment is gone by the time the shutter actually
> fires after all that mirror clicking and clacking. And anyone who thinks
> today that Live View with a flip-screen is just a gimmick would have 
> thought
> that the M3 was just another camera 60 years ago!
>
> Gary Todoroff
>


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