Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/12/22

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Subject: [Leica] Leica M8 -- too fragile for the real world - or don't sweat while using it...
From: hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 07:57:47 +1000
References: <95E139E5-CC69-4274-B648-E91650A21F52@frozenlight.eu> <001601ca8266$5477e8a0$fd67b9e0$@net> <02FBAED9-A6C3-4FD5-AE9E-B9AA0AA16C70@frozenlight.eu> <A59A003D-D1B7-4476-8FB9-843AD2A397AC@mac.com> <D0609D6C-921C-4308-8B9C-CC2BA7CA7BFA@frozenlight.eu> <80A4AD4E-59E0-4B11-8F43-DA7112FAA722@mac.com> <33AB040E-B04E-4299-9EA6-B82CAE34DFEC@frozenlight.eu> <E14F945F-81E6-4EAB-9B8C-36D08A2213B9@mac.com>

George it is not common but clearly it can happen. It has been vigorously
discussed in the L Camera Forum when another person had an expensive repair
quote after saying that their camera was only briefly exposed to a rain
shower. Others including our Tina reported very different experiences.
There was a clamour there regarding the need for weather sealing. I don't
remember it coming up before despite every previous M not having that
sealing either.
That's the nature of internet groups for you. The discussions are by no
means limited to people with actual experiences to report.

Whatever the circumstance, of course we know that Nathan is honest in his
recollection. I believe that Solms certainly have been truthful as well. The
specific agent that has damaged Nathan's camera is NOT proven but it does
seem most likely that it has been a product of the operating environment.
Specifically humid salty air (sea breeze carrying fine blown sand/salt too?)
and possibly sweat from handling and using the camera during honest exercise
cycling around in that environment. Very important to acknowledge that
Nathan is NOT ranting nor complaining  of course.
By the way, from my technical maintenance back ground, YES corrosion is very
bad news and can develop quickly. In this case it has apparently been
limited to a small switch area, luckily (and due to Nathan getting it dealt
with promptly).
2009/12/23 George Lottermoser <imagist3 at mac.com>

> So, then, aside from your frustration re: being without the camera,
> what DO you make of their analysis of the issue?
>
> Do you think
> the weather conditions
> salt water proximity
> sweat
> what in the world
> could have caused corrosion
> in such a brief period of time?
>
> Is it possible that something at the factory
> actually was not cleaned off during mfg?
>
> It just seems such a weird break down.
> (and one I've not heard of previously)
>
> Do you read the l-camera forum?
> Have you checked with that list about this fault?
>
>
> Regards,
> George Lottermoser
> george at imagist.com
> http://www.imagist.com
> http://www.imagist.com/blog
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>
> On Dec 22, 2009, at 2:53 PM, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
>
> No, I will not treat it any differently. I exercise reasonable care, do not
>> walk around with it in rainy weather etc., but at the end of the day I 
>> have
>> it in order to take pictures.
>>
>
>
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-- 
Cheers
Geoff
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman


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