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Subject: [Leica] OT: Eurotrip Question
From: Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com (Frank Dernie)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:25:06 +0100
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My Maestro card is not accepted in Germany since it does not have  
theEC symbol making cash the only solution. Not a problem elsewhere in  
Europe. Frank

On 24 Jul 2009, at 10:39, Douglas Sharp <douglas.sharp at gmx.de> wrote:

>
> Here in Germany, stores and restaurants much prefer direct debit  
> cards (Maestro, now accepted almost everywhere in the EU) drawing  
> directly on your account (with PIN, or without PIN but card  
> ownership confirmed by signature). There is also a chip on most  
> cards that can be credited from your account and makes the card  
> usable in lieu of cash - mostly used for telephone boxes, parking,  
> bus-tickets and the like.
>
> VISA and Mastercard are accepted, but VERY reluctantly.
>
> However, for most transactions up to around 500 euros, cash rules.
>
> Cheers
> Douglas
>
>
>
> Jayanand Govindaraj wrote:
>> Michiel,
>> There is a reason - Amex and Diners are 'charge cards', there is no  
>> credit
>> limit, so they charge the retailer more as he is guaranteed to get  
>> his
>> money. In Asia  as well, retailers prefer Visa or Mastercard because
>> commissions are less. I carry a Diners only for use in medical  
>> emergencies -
>> I have not used it yet for that purpose, though.
>> Cheers
>> Jayanand
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 12:40 AM, Michiel Fokkema <
>> michiel.fokkema at wanadoo.nl> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> don't bother to bring AMEX. AMEX is very bad accepted here in  
>>> Europe. It's
>>> too expensive for the merchants. VISA and Mastercard are very well  
>>> accepted.
>>> At least the Netherlands are totally converting to the PIN system.  
>>> As well
>>> for the ATM's as for the stores.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Michiel Fokkema
>>>
>>> Brian Reid wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I had not realised that the US did not use the PIN system yet
>>>>      North American bank cards use PINs only for debit/ATM  
>>>> transactions.
>>>> Credit transactions just use a signature. And our cards do not  
>>>> have chips
>>>> in them.
>>>>
>>>> My experience is that the most universal form of access to money  
>>>> when I
>>>> travel is an ATM/debit card with a 4-digit PIN. Being the sort of  
>>>> person who
>>>> always has a backup Plan B, I carry two such cards, issued by  
>>>> different
>>>> banks that use different debit networks.
>>>>
>>>> Though because of the epidemic of banks buying other banks, most  
>>>> cards
>>>> issued by nationwide financial institutions are members of 3 or  
>>>> more debit
>>>> networks.
>>>>
>>>>
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