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Subject: [Leica] OT: Eurotrip Question
From: grduprey at mchsi.com (grduprey at mchsi.com)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:39:27 +0000
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We had no problems with credit cards in France at any restaurants, even the 
small ones.  Same in most countries in the EU.


Gene  -------------- Original message from "Douglas Barry" <imra at iol.ie>: 
--------------


> I tend to ask beforehand if they take creditcards as some smaller 
> operations 
> try to cut their bank charges, but most restaurants and hotels seem to 
> take 
> them - even in France. If they don't there generally seems to be an ATM 
> nearby that will dispense cash.
> 
> In Ireland, many small supermarkets have ATMs as the villages don't have 
> bank outlets.   On Amex, I don't have it myself!
> 
> Douglas
> _________
> Douglas Barry
> Bray, Co. Wicklow
> Republic of Ireland
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Michiel Fokkema" 
> To: "Leica Users Group" 
> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 9:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] OT: Eurotrip Question
> 
> 
> Restaurants and small hotels are the problem. In the UK and especially
> France. well, in my experience then
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Michiel Fokkema
> 
> Nathan Wajsman wrote:
> > Actually, I do not agree, Michiel. I use AMEX everywhere I can because I 
> > like the KLM points I get (I still have my Dutch AMEX card). In NL, I 
> > used 
> > it in many petrol stations, in most of the restaurants I went to, in 
> > many 
> > bookshops etc. Here in Spain, same thing, it is even accepted at some 
> > supermarkets.
> >
> > I am also surprised by Frank's statements about the difficulties of 
> > using 
> > credit cards in Germany--I have never had the problem there. I use Visa 
> > and Amex without any problems every time I am there. At least in the 
> > cities where I have been in the past couple of years--Berlin, Munich, 
> > Cologne, D?sseldorf, Frankfurt--I have not had any problems whatsoever.
> >
> > Nathan
> >
> > Nathan Wajsman
> > Alicante, Spain
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> >
> > Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0
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> >
> >
> >
> > On Jul 23, 2009, at 9:10 PM, Michiel Fokkema wrote:
> >
> >> don't bother to bring AMEX. AMEX is very bad accepted here in Europe. 
> >> It's too expensive for the merchants. VISA and Mastercard are very well 
> >> accepted. At least the Netherlands are totally converting to the PIN 
> >> system. As well for the ATM's as for the stores.
> >>
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Michiel Fokkema
> >>
> >> Brian Reid wrote:
> >>>> I had not realised that the US did not use the PIN system yet
> >>> North American bank cards use PINs only for debit/ATM transactions.
> >>> Credit transactions just use a signature. And our cards do not have 
> >>> chips in them.
> >>> My experience is that the most universal form of access to money when 
> >>> I 
> >>> travel is an ATM/debit card with a 4-digit PIN. Being the sort of 
> >>> person 
> >>> who always has a backup Plan B, I carry two such cards, issued by 
> >>> different banks that use different debit networks.
> >>> Though because of the epidemic of banks buying other banks, most cards 
> >>> issued by nationwide financial institutions are members of 3 or more 
> >>> debit networks.
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In reply to: Message from gregj_lorenzo at hotmail.com (Greg Lorenzo) ([Leica] OT: Eurotrip Question)
Message from simon.apekop at gmail.com (simon jessurun) ([Leica] OT: Eurotrip Question)
Message from reid at mejac.palo-alto.ca.us (Brian Reid) ([Leica] OT: Eurotrip Question)
Message from reid at mejac.palo-alto.ca.us (Brian Reid) ([Leica] OT: Eurotrip Question)
Message from Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com (Frank Dernie) ([Leica] OT: Eurotrip Question)
Message from reid at mejac.palo-alto.ca.us (Brian Reid) ([Leica] OT: Eurotrip Question)
Message from michiel.fokkema at wanadoo.nl (Michiel Fokkema) ([Leica] OT: Eurotrip Question)
Message from photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman) ([Leica] OT: Eurotrip Question)
Message from michiel.fokkema at wanadoo.nl (Michiel Fokkema) ([Leica] OT: Eurotrip Question)
Message from imra at iol.ie (Douglas Barry) ([Leica] OT: Eurotrip Question)