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Subject: [Leica] OT: Eurotrip Question
From: imra at iol.ie (Douglas Barry)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:47:08 +0100
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I tend to ask beforehand if they take creditcards as some smaller operations 
try to cut their bank charges, but most restaurants and hotels seem to take 
them - even in France. If they don't there generally seems to be an ATM 
nearby that will dispense cash.

In Ireland, many small supermarkets have ATMs as the villages don't have 
bank outlets.   On Amex, I don't have it myself!

Douglas
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Douglas Barry
Bray, Co. Wicklow
Republic of Ireland

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michiel Fokkema" <michiel.fokkema at wanadoo.nl>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 9:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] OT: Eurotrip Question


Restaurants and small hotels are the problem. In the UK and especially
France. well, in my experience then


Cheers,

Michiel Fokkema

Nathan Wajsman wrote:
> Actually, I do not agree, Michiel. I use AMEX everywhere I can because I 
> like the KLM points I get (I still have my Dutch AMEX card). In NL, I used 
> it in many petrol stations, in most of the restaurants I went to, in many 
> bookshops etc. Here in Spain, same thing, it is even accepted at some 
> supermarkets.
>
> I am also surprised by Frank's statements about the difficulties of using 
> credit cards in Germany--I have never had the problem there. I use Visa 
> and Amex without any problems every time I am there. At least in the 
> cities where I have been in the past couple of years--Berlin, Munich, 
> Cologne, D?sseldorf, Frankfurt--I have not had any problems whatsoever.
>
> Nathan
>
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> On Jul 23, 2009, at 9:10 PM, Michiel Fokkema wrote:
>
>> don't bother to bring AMEX. AMEX is very bad accepted here in Europe. 
>> It's too expensive for the merchants. VISA and Mastercard are very well 
>> accepted. At least the Netherlands are totally converting to the PIN 
>> system. As well for the ATM's as for the stores.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Michiel Fokkema
>>
>> Brian Reid wrote:
>>>> I had not realised that the US did not use the PIN system yet
>>> North American bank cards use PINs only for debit/ATM transactions.
>>> Credit transactions just use a signature. And our cards do not have 
>>> chips in them.
>>> My experience is that the most universal form of access to money when I 
>>> travel is an ATM/debit card with a 4-digit PIN. Being the sort of person 
>>> who always has a backup Plan B, I carry two such cards, issued by 
>>> different banks that use different debit networks.
>>> Though because of the epidemic of banks buying other banks, most cards 
>>> issued by nationwide financial institutions are members of 3 or more 
>>> debit networks.
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