Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/06/02

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Subject: [Leica] Salgado now great image/camera ?
From: philippe.amard at sfr.fr (Philippe Amard)
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 07:55:03 +0200
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Steve Barbour wrote:

>
> On Jun 2, 2009, at 3:53 PM, George Lottermoser wrote:
>
>> On Jun 2, 2009, at 5:37 PM, Steve Barbour wrote:
>>
>>> why wait for the bird to come to you....
>>
>> because the waiting, getting to know, becoming friends with,
>> allowing the environment, its inhabitants and you to adapt to one  
>> another
>> (as you have with your patients)
>> will produce a different image
>> than popping in and grabbing what you find and disappearing.
>
>
> I like this argument George, and I can entirely connect with the  
> analogy...


This probably is when you can sink into a photograph, when it doesn't 
pop at you for the better.
That's the feeling I had with HCB.
Layers you can progressively savour.
And I don't think HCB only grabbed, he must have been patient, very 
patient of sorts.

I shot a bird at the weelkend, which I haven't posted, where I would 
have loved to have this LF camera set up where I stood.
It would have been the only way for me to 'record' the feeling I had 
when I went click.
Mind you , not the latest LF except for convenience, any LF would have 
done better than Leica/Ang?nieux/C/N/OZ glass on a sensor.

That photo has gone forever for the want of the appropriate tool.
It remains up there, in my mind's eye.
To be processed later, in the photog's paradise maybe? ;-)
Amiti?s
Philippe

Ph




>>
>>> that's a cute argument, but why does it give you a better photo...?
>>
>> not a "better" photograph
>> (totally subjective)
>>
>> yet, definitely a "different" photograph.
>>
>> I've not seen anything like this fellows work
>> according to all reviews - the huge prints take your breath away.
>
>
> I have not seen the large prints...but I can imagine...
>
>>
>> It is unlikely that anyone can duplicate his vision.
>>
>> It's all a bit more than simply eccentric and cute.
>
>
>
> sorry unfair of me...
>
>>
>> He's visually saying something completely different about:
>> birds, environment and how we all interact;
>> than our wild life Luggers.
>
>
>
> I believe so....
>
>
>
> Steve
>
>>
>> Regards,
>> George Lottermoser
>> george at imagist.com
>> http://www.imagist.com
>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>>
>>
>>
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In reply to: Message from drodgers at casefarms.com (David Rodgers) ([Leica] Salgado in Sunday NY Times)
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