Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/06/02

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Subject: [Leica] Salgado now great image/camera ?
From: hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 02:41:57 +1000
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Absolutely fascinating gentlemen that we could look at this so differently.
Looking at the HCB images I have, I see a number that I can recognise as
iconic and superb, yet others that I understand not at all. Throughout I see
images that have succeeded despite the technical shortcomings rather than
because of them.  Perhaps an insight as to why his work is famous and mine
never will be. Still I make mine for me which is of course their purpose.

For all of that I'd much rather have my photo time machine in the service of
Ansel Adams. Actually I just remembered that HCB in fact decried Ansel's
preoccupation with rocks rather than the human condition. Maybe I need to
switch to an 11 x14 field camera or something to pursue my Grail.

2009/6/3 Steve Barbour <kididdoc at cox.net>

> On Jun 1, 2009, at 11:17 PM, Philippe Amard wrote:
>
>  Geoff Hopkinson wrote:
>>
>> <> HCB photographs. Same scenario, would any of
>>> his photographs have been worse or better with modern M glass and
>>> exposure
>>> metering?
>>>
>>
>> Could have spoiled the whole thing Geoff, it might at least.
>>
>> I was at this HCB exhibition in Paris last Thursday.
>> Lots of prints, each a masterpiece.
>> Yet, some are on the verge of fuzzy, some are not that sharp, soft in some
>> cases to modern standards at least,
>> the sea isn't even always level, etc.
>> Technicalities doesn't seem to have been his concern at all...
>>
>
> hopefully his eye would have survived modern lenses....
>
> evidently he felt that sharp lenses make dull photographs...
>
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>
> I'm cautious here as I don't know.
>>
>> Only, each one of these 50 or 80 photographs has character.
>> It doesn't pop at you, you just seamlessly sink into them.
>> I'd bet he used the cam as he knew it could work.
>> I think it's all that is to say about the gear.
>>
>> And when there, you don't need to know you're there to know who was behind
>> the camera, whatever the camera.
>> That is a question you don't even ask.
>> Opportunity, light, geometry, every thing tells you the camera was just a
>> tool he used to convey his vision.
>>
>> Yet, his tireur(s) should also receive more credits. As many Wows as there
>> are rints exposed.
>>
>> My two Pfennig of Saukraut ;-)
>> Have fun in (sunny?) Berlin my friend.
>> Best from Metz
>> Philippe
>>
>>
>>
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-- 
Cheers
Geoff
'Life's not B&W, except at both ends'
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