Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/05/20

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Subject: [Leica] Photoshop CS 3 to CS 4 Upgrade Worth It?
From: rbaron at (Robert D. Baron)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 02:04:24 -0500
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Geez, guys, all I did was ask if I should upgrade....

;-)  :-)

===On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 1:57 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at> 
> Who is more responsible and get should get more credit for this ?amazing
> evolution in photography which is digital photography than Adobe?. Epson?
> Did I forget anybody? With Photoshop they've created not a world to work in
> but a universe. How many organizations, websites, cults are devoted to it?
> Its not a metaphor for a DARK ROOM;
> Its a metaphor for a BLACK HOLE with effects galactic on the crafting of
> photography.
> The suite in its many forms are an absurdly awesome enabling set of tools
> very well integrated. Photoshop cubed. The idea of a guy being handed this
> set of tools by somebody arbitrarily like its some kind of accident is
> amazing to me. Who would have someone buy such a critical and expensive set
> of tools like this?
> "go out and buy me a suit and wallet and a car".
> - and then complain about it?
> I sound here mildly adoring on the Adobe company cult but I have
> frustrations with it which I write about regularly on the LUG.
> Sometimes when you lay them out in the sun to close to noon they dry too
> fast and crack. Try building a house out of THOSE bricks!!
> I've have used a half dozen or more of their software for decades and I
> think they deserve a noble prize for excellence in wonderfulness.
> Starting with Pagemaker which saved Apple with the 300 laser printer right
> as it was getting off the ground in the mid to late 80's. It almost didn't;
> Desktop publishing it was called.
> I love their stuff.
> I love the packaging. I love the documentation.
> I love their logo. The color red they use for it. ?Their icons.
> Mainly of course I love the main Adobe INTERFACE which stays beautifully
> consistent from program to program -
> in front of some new thing with no clue was so what its for or what it 
> does.
> I just start using it.. ?They listen to their customers like no company 
> I've
> ever seen.
> When the Photoshop program opens and I see all those names of the people 
> who
> developed this latest upgrade these people are Gods to me. Its a pantheon
> rolling over. I wonder what they eat for breakfast. I think I met one once
> at a wedding some bridesmaid or something.. I think I dropped down and
> kissed the floor from whence they walked.
> Mumbling ?"I am not worthy" repeatedly. Maybe not.
> Mark William Rabiner
>> From: Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at>
>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at>
>> Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 13:11:46 +1000
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Photoshop CS 3 to CS 4 Upgrade Worth It?
>> I don't understand your evil empire world domination remarks but never
>> mind. ?Of course we all have different perspectives and priorities.
>> I really don't understand your sympathy for Nikon, as you know. Surely if
>> you have say, several thousand Nikon Raw files then the data in those 
>> files
>> including the encrypted white balance information is YOURS not Nikons.
>> That has nothing to do with Adobe providing access to Nikon's proprietary
>> formats (and all of the others).
>> In fact Nikon and Adobe have released joint statements on their positions 
>> on
>> this.
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