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Subject: [Leica] Picture of the Year Controversy
From: s.dimitrov at charter.net (Slobodan Dimitrov)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 13:53:06 -0700
References: <200904201058.BPA26179@rg5.comporium.net> <49ECBDF4.7070702@mcclary.net> <49ECC5CD.1030309@bouncing.org>

 From my experience with photojournalism, that is an approach rarely,  
if ever taken.
The woman needs to be told what her experience is. The further the  
outside voice is from her frame of reference, the more authentic the  
message, and subtext.

I'm still waiting for the LA Times to go down in auction.
Then we can melt down select scrap metals and make an award for  
journalism from it.
S.d.


On Apr 20, 2009, at 11:58 AM, Philip Clarke wrote:

>
> I think the test would be to show the pictures to that woman and  
> ask her which is more indicative of where she lives.
>
> Harrison McClary wrote:
>> First I agree that almost all photos need "something" other than  
>> the default RAW settings in Lightroom or whatever.  However;  
>> looking at his photos they are way over processed.
>>
>> Never did I make a straight print working news, always there was  
>> some burning, dodging and in B&W sometimes bleaching to get the  
>> print to look like what I "saw" when I made the photo.  To expect  
>> that there be a great straight shot just because we now shoot  
>> digital is a little ridiculous.  I keep thinking back to my old  
>> friend from my Atlanta days who got in trouble a few years ago in  
>> Charlotte for his "manipulation" of digital files.  From what I  
>> saw he did nothing wrong.  the intent of his photos was not  
>> altered, just colors SLIGHTLY pumped and backgrounds burned down,  
>> no big deal, IMHO.
>>
>> Now these photos in the link Tina shared look like they came from  
>> a cartoon, guy really needs to learn how to tweak an image without  
>> going over the top.
>>
>> On 4/20/09 5:58 AM, Tina Manley wrote:
>>> The judges thought he used too much photoshop based on the  
>>> difference between the photos he submitted and the RAW file.  The  
>>> photographer argues that a RAW file is not really indicative of  
>>> what the scene looks like without being converted and that the  
>>> appearance of the submitted files depends on which software is used.
>>
>>
>
>
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