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Subject: [Leica] New 18 mm lens
From: grduprey at mchsi.com (grduprey@mchsi.com)
Date: Sun Feb 15 09:22:51 2009
References: <021420092120.19061.4997358D0005E96500004A75223245003003010CD2079C080C03BF970A9D9F9A0B9D09@mchsi.com> <C5BCAFBA.49E35%mark@rabinergroup.com>

 
Mark,


That was not a complaint, just a bit of info as to the possible price 
difference. ? Personally, I have not been impressed by the Cosina Zeiss 
lenses, but that is just my impression. ?I took a close look at the Zeiss 
15mm M mount lens at Photokina and thought that it was very cheaply made, 
which was a shock as it is supposed to be made by Zeiss in Germany. ?The 
others which are made by Cosina seem similar to me. ?I now others here own 
and have used the CZ lenses and think very highly of them. ?JMHO.


Gene



 -------------- Original message from Mark Rabiner <mark@rabinergroup.com>: 
--------------


> The reason a lot of photographers over the decades justified not using 
> Leica
> was that reason;
> The price of the German Mark.
> They'd say your just paying for Economics.
> 
> What your paying for are higher grade materials, Glass, metals and 
> plastics,
> better design and lenses made in smaller amounts with all that comes with
> it, a main thing being quality control.
> 
> But other than that, yea, Leica is just a waste of money.
> 
> 
> Mark William Rabiner
> 
> 
> 
> > From: 
> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group 
> > Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 21:20:13 +0000
> > To: Leica Users Group 
> > Subject: RE: [Leica] New 18 mm lens
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > The Zeiss lens is made by Cosina and in Japan. ?The Leica lens is made in
> > Germany, which most likely accounts for the higher cost.
> > 
> > 
> > Gene? -------------- Original message from "Frank Filippone"
> > : --------------
> > 
> > 
> >> Maybe it is a change in marketing focus rather than a small sensor
> >> issue.....  Focusing the lens into the hands of the M8 users.....
> >> 
> >> But still, I would prefer it say that it covers the 24x36 format......(
> >> because no M8  lives with me......)
> >> 
> >> Competitively the Zeiss 18 is $1000 or so.... F4 ( as well), and is 
> >> small (
> >> I think).  This lens is $3K or so.....
> >> Is the Zeiss lens made in Japan by Cosina or is it a German lens?  How 
> >> is
> >> the build quality on the Zeiss?
> >> 
> >> I wonder... if the M8 is only a smaller sensor, why introduce lenses 
> >> for the
> >> "old" (24x36) market....?
> >> I just have to believe there is a M9 with full 24x36 sensor coming
> >> soon....... or maybe an M10?  M11?
> >> 
> >> Frank Filippone
> >> red735i@earthlink.net
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I'm quite convinced it covers 24x36.
> >> 
> >> a. Kaufmann said all their lenses would.
> >> 
> >> b. It's very large for a lens that only covers the M8 format.
> >> Remember, a lens that covers the same angle of view and has the same
> >> speed and was also designed very recently (the 24/3.8) is a lot
> >> smaller.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
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