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Subject: [Leica] Bokeh yes
From: simon.apekop at gmail.com (simon jessurun)
Date: Tue Jan 20 23:48:26 2009
References: <1062048673.254751232473444566.JavaMail.root@mail02.pantherlink.uwm.edu> <C59BA28A.48B60%mark@rabinergroup.com>

I like the background of the summicrons
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/animal/vlinderff.JPG.html
simon
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 9:47 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark@rabinergroup.com> wrote:

> My findings are that when you look at the so called lens reports on blog
> like entities dominating the internet for the past decade you get
> discussions of Bokeh and not much else. I would just look. Google it.
> Google
> your lens.
> It's as if people do nothing but shoot everything wide open.
> And then stare endlessly at the backgrounds waiting for a sailing ship to
> pop out.
>
> And I disagree with this "one mans Bokeh is another's hot tuna sandwich"
> idea being propagated on this thread.
> Either a background is smooth or its not.
> Its not a Rorschach Test and its not Rocket Science.
> Either there are obvious artifacts or there are not.
> Smooth is Smooth
> Peanut is Peanut
>
>
> Mark William Rabiner
>
> You can tell a lens has bad Bokeh by the peanuts on its breath.
>
>
>
> > From: Alan Magayne-Roshak <amr3@uwm.edu>
> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> > Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:44:04 -0600 (CST)
> > To: lug <lug@leica-users.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Bokeh yes
> >
> > On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 Douglas Nygren <dnygr@cshore.com>wrote:
> >
> >> Bokeh has caught my fancy of late.
> >> I'm sure this has been discussed and that there is a diversity of
> >> opinion.
> >
> >> I'd be interested in learnng which lenses you all feel have the best
> >> bokeh and why, of course.
> >
> >> Best--Doug
> >
> =============================================================================
> > Coincidentally, I received my Olympus to Canon lens adapter last week,
> and
> > with my 30D, did some
> > comparisons between the Canon AF 50mm f/1.8, an old Nikkor 50mm f/1.4,
> and a
> > Zuiko 50mm f/1.8:
> >
> > <
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Alan+Magayne-Roshak/LensFun/Canon_50mm_at_f2
> > AF.jpg.html>
> > <
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Alan+Magayne-Roshak/LensFun/Nikkor_50mm_at_f
> > 2.jpg.html>
> > <
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Alan+Magayne-Roshak/LensFun/Zuiko_50mm_at_f1
> > _8.jpg.html>
> >
> > In these shots there are slight variations in the out of focus
> highlights, and
> > even DoF (look at the Pony
> > camera on the left - it looks sharper in the Nikkor shot).  The first two
> > lenses have a setting for f/2, but
> > the Zuiko doesn't, so that one is at f/1.8.
> >
> > Here is that Zuiko 50 and my favorite Olympus lens, the 100mm f/2.8 (both
> at
> > closest focus).  I've always
> > liked the oof rendering of this lens at f/2.8:
> >
> > <
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Alan+Magayne-Roshak/LensFun/Z_50mm_at_f1_8.j
> > pg.html>
> > <
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Alan+Magayne-Roshak/LensFun/Z_100mm_at_f2_8
> .
> > jpg.html>
> > <
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Alan+Magayne-Roshak/LensFun/Z_100mm_f2_8Wide
> > Open_.jpg.html>
> >
> > Bokeh rendering of some misc. lenses:
> >
> > 50mm Summitar at f/2:
> > <
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Alan+Magayne-Roshak/BigBird_AMR.jpg.html>
> >
> > Nikkor 85mm f/2 LTM at f/2.8.  I love the bokeh of this lens:
> > <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Alan+Magayne-Roshak/Fowl_AMR.jpg.html>
> >
> > My custom 135mm Elmar:
> > <
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Alan+Magayne-Roshak/Color/BerriesLeaves_AMR
> .
> > jpg.html>
> > <
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Alan+Magayne-Roshak/Color/ThreeBlooms_AMR.jp
> > g.html>
> >
> > Last, look at the tunnel-like look to this Victorian era Darlot when used
> wide
> > open at f/4.8:
> > <
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Alan+Magayne-Roshak/Portraits/Kathryn1_AMR.j
> > pg.html>
> > Stopped down, this effect is minimized.
> >
> > Alan
> >
> > Alan Magayne-Roshak, Senior Photographer
> > UPAA POY 1978
> > University Information Technology Services
> > University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
> > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Alan+Magayne-Roshak/
> >
> >
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In reply to: Message from amr3 at uwm.edu (Alan Magayne-Roshak) ([Leica] Bokeh yes)
Message from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] Bokeh yes)