Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/01/17
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Bob, I've just taken a look at Erwin Puts' book and see that he puts the intro of version 3 in 1971 that would make both of your lenses version 3's. One other way to determine to which group your earlier lens belongs is ask if the diaphragm is controlled by a small tab that protrudes from the lens mount or by a more typical ring. If the former, it is version 2, if the latter, they're both version 3. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Meier" <robertmeier@usjet.net> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [Leica] FS 35mm Summicron > My other Summicron 35 is 2619853, which the list puts as only a year > newer (thanks Arche), but this one is mint. I thought the newer one > is version 3, but now I'm not sure. > Bob > > On Jan 17, 2009, at 3:24 PM, Seth Rosner wrote: > >> Same series (version), Bob? >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Meier" >> <robertmeier@usjet.net> >> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org> >> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 4:10 PM >> Subject: Re: [Leica] FS 35mm Summicron >> >> >>> Seth, >>> >>> That's a very impressive story, both about how well built a Leica >>> lens is, and how good the Leica New Jersey service is/was. I should >>> reconsider selling this lens, except I have another one that is newer >>> and is even nicer! >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> On Jan 17, 2009, at 12:37 PM, Seth Rosner wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Bob, the lists I have show that your 35/2 Summicron is from 1972 >>>> production that commenced at #2503101 through 2556500. I believe >>>> that Steve's serial numbers refer only to cameras. I bought one of >>>> these lenses shortly after their introduction in 1969 or 70. Was in >>>> my kit for a four-week visit to South and East Africa = 700+ >>>> Kodachromes. >>>> >>>> One afternoon in our hotel room in Nairobi after returning from an >>>> 8-day tour of the Serengeti, I put down my M4 w/ 35/2 Summicron >>>> attached to answer the phone. I had forgotten to twist the lens to >>>> full lock. When I picked it up, the lens plunged onto a tile floor, >>>> bending the rear flange. I literally burst into sweat, told my wife >>>> that I had to go for a short walk to calm down. Returned to hotel >>>> room, looked once again at bent flange, shook lens vigorously to >>>> ascertain if there were loose glass elements, diaphragm blades or >>>> other un-Leica-like anomalies, etc, tried it on the M4 to which it >>>> seemd to mate as usual. Had no back-up 35mm so used it balance of >>>> the trip. On return to NYC, I called Vince Fochtman, the lens guy >>>> at Leitz/Rockleigh whom I knew pretty well, told him the story and >>>> said I was sending him the lens; if there was damage to the glass >>>> or mechanicals that could not be made perfect, please just return >>>> the lens with a bill and I would sell it and find another; if it >>>> could be made optically and mechanically flawless despite cosmetic >>>> flaws, please repair the lens. A week passed, my lens returned with >>>> a Leitz invoice that had no charge. I called Vince and inquired. He >>>> said the lens was fine, glass clean, clear, not decentered a >>>> micron, just as good as it had come from Wetzlar; he had been able >>>> very gently and little by little to bend the bent- out-of-shape >>>> flange into perfect alignment, didn't need any parts, so no charge! >>>> Talk about robust fortress-like construction! I would like to think >>>> that current production is just as strong. Who knows? >>>> >>>> Enjoy your Summicron! >>>> >>>> Seth >>>> >>>> Seth >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Meier" >>>> <robertmeier@usjet.net> >>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org> >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 11:19 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] FS 35mm Summicron >>>> >>>> >>>>> Seth, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for that confirmation. Where can I go to check the serial >>>>> numbers of lenses? All I know about is Stephen Gandy's lists of >>>>> body serial numbers. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Bob >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 17, 2009, at 7:06 AM, Seth Rosner wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> it is indeed the second version >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Meier" >>>>>> <robertmeier@usjet.net> >>>>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org> >>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 8:02 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] FS 35mm Summicron >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I have a 35mm Summicron, pre-aspheric, that shows wear on the >>>>>>> barrel >>>>>>> (no dents or dings) and has mint glass. With both caps. I >>>>>>> think it >>>>>>> is 2nd version, but I'm not sure. 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