Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/12/21
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Hi Nathan, I have ACR, not LR, however the engine is the same. Do you not have a "detail ' panel in LR? Of course I agree on the high quality of well exposed M8 DNGs ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nathan Wajsman" <photo@frozenlight.eu> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [Leica] Nathan's PAD 19/12/2008: Wilma and my M8 > Hi Geoff, > > My RAW converter has been Lightroom since I adopted it as my one and only > image-processing tool in early 2007. Certainly it does not apply any > develop settings when I import the RAW files. Perhaps there is something > going on deep in the bowels of the underlying conversion engine, i.e. > Adobe Camera Raw, but if so, then it was also going on when I imported > Canon and Olympus RAW files, and I never got this type of image quality > with those, not straight from the camera. So I believe that the picture > is still valid as an illustration of the capabilities of the M8. > > I don't expect much disagreement from you--after all, it was seeing one > of your RAW files from your M8 that pushed me over the edge (OK, the > falling pound and the UK rebates helped too...) > > Cheers, > Nathan > > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > http://www.frozenlight.eu > http://www.greatpix.eu > http://www.nathanfoto.com > > Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog > > > > On Dec 22, 2008, at 6:27 AM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote: > >> Hi Nathan that is so, however the Raw converter very likely defaults to >> some sharpening, basically capture sharpening, as well as some noise >> reduction. Certainly you can turn it off, but it is likely on by >> default. >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nathan Wajsman" <photo@frozenlight.eu >> > >> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org> >> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 3:23 PM >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Nathan's PAD 19/12/2008: Wilma and my M8 >> >> >>> Hi Jayanand, >>> >>> No, the M8 manual explicitly states that settings such as contrast, >>> sharpnesss and colour saturation have no effect if you shoot RAW (i.e. >>> DNG). >>> >>> When I import images into Lightroom, by default no manipulation is >>> applied to them. I want to control what happens to each image. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Nathan >>> >>> Nathan Wajsman >>> Alicante, Spain >>> http://www.frozenlight.eu >>> http://www.greatpix.eu >>> http://www.nathanfoto.com >>> >>> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 >>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog >>> >>> >>> >>> On Dec 21, 2008, at 5:35 PM, Jayanand Govindaraj wrote: >>> >>>> Nathan, >>>> That is terrific - just check that there is no default sharpening >>>> enabled in >>>> RAW, which would kick in the Raw converter. Nikon always have some >>>> default >>>> sharpening on, which one has to switch off, either in camera, or in >>>> Capture. >>>> Cheers >>>> Jayanand >>>> >>>> On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Nathan Wajsman <photo@frozenlight.eu >>>> >wrote: >>>> >>>>> To illustrate in more detail of what I was talking about on Friday, >>>>> I have >>>>> added a 100% crop of what I focused on (Wilma's eye). Again, no >>>>> sharpening >>>>> of any kind has been applied. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/4253606_netUM#440375031_nNzbw-O-LB >>>>> >>>>> Keep in mind that this is a handheld picture at a rather lively >>>>> lunch. >>>>> >>>>> Nathan >>>>> >>>>> Nathan Wajsman >>>>> Alicante, Spain >>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu >>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu >>>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com >>>>> >>>>> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 >>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >>>>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 19, 2008, at 8:09 PM, Nathan Wajsman wrote: >>>>> >>>>> After the discussion about the M8 colour issues when filters are not >>>>> used >>>>>> in mixed lighting, it is time to show one that demonstrates why I >>>>>> bought the >>>>>> M8. This is just a simple portrait of my co-worker Wilma, taken >>>>>> during our >>>>>> Christmas lunch in a restaurant this afternoon. The image is not >>>>>> sharpened, >>>>>> and the only things I did to it in Lightroom was to click on AUTO >>>>>> to adjust >>>>>> the levels, and to crop it. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/4253606_netUM#439518642_H5Ymx-O-LB >>>>>> >>>>>> When I zoom in on Wilma's eye in Lightroom, I can see why I bought >>>>>> the M8 >>>>>> (and also that the 35mm Summarit is a great lens). This image is >>>>>> sharper >>>>>> right out of the camera than I would have gotten from my E3 or >>>>>> previously my >>>>>> Canon 1DII, after sharpening in those cases. >>>>>> >>>>>> Nathan >>>>>> >>>>>> Nathan Wajsman >>>>>> Alicante, Spain >>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu >>>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu >>>>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com >>>>>> >>>>>> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search? search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 >>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >>>>>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information