Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/12/19

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Subject: [Leica] un-believable
From: mknawabi.lug at (Yama Nawabi)
Date: Fri Dec 19 16:31:01 2008
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Au contraire! The technology used in the M8 relative to other cameras is 
rubbish. What Dante meant is that you are charging a lot for an engine 
that is old. I agree with him, but you guys can argue all you want!


Seth Rosner wrote:
> Dante, with great respect, you utterly disqualify your comment and 
> reveal your lack of knowledge of product by equating the Leica M8 to 
> an (obsolete) Honda Civic. What rubbish.
> Seth
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dante Stella" 
> <>
> To: "Leica Users Group" <>
> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 7:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] un-believable
>> I don't even think Leica is even in the same class the US auto
>> industry - which has as good technology as anyone's but has been
>> struggling mightily with product mix and cost-effective production.
>> More importantly, the prices are not out of scale.  Leica, on the
>> other hand, doesn't even have the technology - and unless you believe
>> that having Germans assemble it is worth a ton of money,* the prices
>> are way out of line.  The equivalent of an M8 in the automotive world
>> would be building a 1997 Civic and selling it today for $60,000.
>> Dante
>> *Assuming Solms and not Portugal does the work.
>> On Dec 19, 2008, at 6:53 PM, Philip Forrest wrote:
>>> I don't think it's unbelievable, I think it's hilarious for the
>>> cult-ish status symbol. I love Leica's products (the ones I own) but I
>>> also think that they, like the US auto industry, are desperate due to
>>> lack of innovation and foresight. My M4 will be working long after
>>> Leica is gone and my lenses will as well. I'm happy with that for now.
>>> Phil Forrest
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