Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/12/14

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Subject: [Leica] Re: Photoshop?
From: grduprey at mchsi.com (grduprey@mchsi.com)
Date: Sun Dec 14 10:40:18 2008
References: <200812140550.mBE5oDYG017292@server1.waverley.reid.org><4F8810A2-9136-494F-ABAB-398794C3DE41@optonline.net> <3cad89990812140839s1855aca4h1a592a8a3480423c@mail.gmail.com>

 
ACR is supported and provided in the current versions of PSE, and works very 
well.


Gene -------------- Original message from "Jayanand Govindaraj" 
<jayanand@gmail.com>: --------------


> Larry.
> The only program that I have used in your list is Photoshop Elements, and 
> it
> is really a dumbed down version of Photoshop. No contest. You would have to
> buy a decent RAW converter if you dont buy Photoshop - both Nikon & Canon's
> packaged versions are pretty basic. The cost adds up on software, it really
> does. Especially if you want professional routines sold by the ilk of Nik 
> or
> Photokit. This is not something unique to photo processing, it is part of
> the total cost of owning a computer - the hardware costs are pretty
> insignificant over the life of the machine, compared to what we would spend
> on software over the same period. In fact the only parameter which is of
> importance when buying hardware is after sales service, because the
> productivity losses arising from computer downtime is horrendous.
> Cheers
> Jayanand
> 
> On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 9:27 PM, Lawrence Zeitlin
> wrote:
> 
> >
> > On Dec 14, 2008, at 12:50 AM, lug-request@leica-users.org wrote:
> >
> >  Nathan,
> >> You left out a very big and recurring expense - software. Adobe's 
> >> programs
> >> dont come cheap - they are a monopoly and charge as such. I just found 
> >> out
> >> that to upgrade from the CS3 suite to the CS4 suite is only US$770 - the
> >> cost of a very good digital SLR.
> >> Cheers
> >> Jayanand
> >>
> >
> >
> > We cheapies have long known that there are many low cost digital
> > manipulation programs which will perform most of the functions of 
> > Photoshop.
> > Indeed Adobe Elements will do the bulk of what Photoshop does except
> > pre-press work for a retail cost of less than $100. Mac users can use the
> > latest implementation of GraphicConverter, a truly versatile program, for
> > $35. The trial version is free. In fact, if you bought a Mac laptop a 
> > couple
> > of years ago, a fully licensed version was included in the software 
> > package.
> > For casual image correction work, iPhoto is adequate. I have an aged 
> > copy of
> > Photoshop 6 which does everything I need except run on my new iMac. Linux
> > users can use GIMP for free. GIMP does just about everything that 
> > Photoshop
> > does. I'm sure that dark side computers (PCs) have even more low cost
> > programs available. The list goes on and on. In short, unless you are
> > heavily involved in publishing, there is no need to use the expensive
> > spread.
> >
> > Larry Z
> >
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In reply to: Message from lrzeitlin at optonline.net (Lawrence Zeitlin) ([Leica] Re: Photoshop?)
Message from jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj) ([Leica] Re: Photoshop?)