Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/12/10
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Luis, DR and Rigid Summicrons are optically identical, except for the occasionally varying exact focal length of Rigids that have no effect whatever on imagery ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lluis Ripoll" <luisripoll@telefonica.net> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [Leica] M-lenses on M8 > Thanks for showing Peter, great demonstration of the qualities, I hope > when I finallt?y decide go to M8's... my Summicron Rigid gave the same > quality, after what I read from Putts optically are the same. > > Saludos cordiales > Lluis > > > El 09/12/2008, a las 8:17, Peter Klein escribi?: > >> Seth: >> >> Great to see you here. I can likewise vouch for the Rigid on the >> M8. I have a DR, which as you know is the same lens. After some >> hemming and hawing, I had DAG grind down the close-focus part of the >> cam so I could use it on the M8. No regrets--it has the same "it" >> quality on the M8 that it did on film: Smooth transitions, very >> nice fine detail, and a little bleed of bright highlights into >> adjacent dark areas that gave a little "glow" to the proceedings. >> >> On the M8, 50mm has a marked short telephoto quality, but I find >> myself using it fairly often. Here are a few DR/M8 shots: >> >> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/album170/L1004685-w.jpg.html> >> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/album170/L1004642Crop-w.jpg.html >> > >> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/album170/L1004637-w.jpg.html> >> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/album170/L1004636-w.jpg.html> >> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/album170/L1004621JimGreenGesture-w.jpg.html >> > >> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/album170/L1004626Darkside-w.jpg.html >> > >> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/album170/L1004596StretchBW-w.jpg.html >> > >> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/album170/L1004603ChowShibaBW-w.jpg.html >> > >> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/album170/L1004593TheaterBW-w.jpg.html >> > >> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/album170/L1004594PinknBlue-w.jpg.html >> > >> >> And as with film, you'll usually want to keep bright light sources >> out of the frame :-) >> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/album170/L1004610Crabby-w.jpg.html >> > >> >> I have a 90mm Elmarit, but on the M8 I've only shot test pictures of >> soup cans and cereal boxes with it to test focus. They look about >> like what it looked like on film--a bit dreamy at f/2.8, nice >> portrait quality at f/4, and tack-sharp at f/8. >> >> From what I've heard, 90mm lenses are the most difficult to get >> right on the M8. The M8's tighter tolerances are amplified by the >> relatively long focal length. My 90mm Elmarit's focus is >> significantly off on the M8. For outdoors, I have been using a CV >> 90/3.5 Lanthar that focuses perfectly. On the M8, a 90 is more like >> a 135mm is with film. It's great for distant scenics, but for 4-15 >> feet away, you might find a 50 or a 75 more to your liking. >> >> I have no experience with the 35/2.8 Summaron. >> >> I believe you are, like me, a 50mm kind of guy with film, so you may >> find that you are a 35mm kind of guy with the M8. If that's the >> case, you might want to pick up a non-aspheric 35mm Summicron. That >> might very well become your normal lens on the M8, if as Len says, >> the Summaron doesn't have quite enough contrast. >> >> Hope this helps. >> --"Major General" Peter >> >> At 02:44 PM 12/8/2008 -0800, Leonard wrote: >>> You will love the 50/2 rigid Summicron on the M8. While it is lower >>> in contrast then the Summilux Asph for instance, I find it's very >>> smooth and detailed. Photos taken with it are wonderful. There are a >>> few on list that use it all the time. >>> >>> I can't speak of the 35/2.8 Summaron but I did test two very clean >>> 3.5 versions (LTM and M version with goggles) just yesterday. The M8 >>> brutally shows their very low contrast. They can be made to look fair >>> by using the auto levels feature in Photoshop but without >>> manipulation I wouldn't use them. >>> >>> I have never used the other two lenses. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Len >>> >>> >>> On Dec 8, 2008, at 3:03 PM, Seth Rosner wrote: >>> >>> > Hello friends, >>> > >>> > What a coincidentally useful time to return LUG-wise! I'm finally >>> > considering an M8 or M8.2; would wish to use 35/2,8 Summaron, 50/2 >>> > Rigid Summicron, 25/4 CV Skopar and 90,2,8 Elmarit (the 5-glass >>> > 1958 rendition). Any comments/opinions on good or bad imaging with >>> > any of these on an M8? Thanks. >>> > >>> > Best to all, >>> > >>> > Seth >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.16/1841 - Release Date: 12/10/2008 9:30 AM