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Subject: [Leica] Bad news at Leica - FF or crop survey
From: imagist3 at mac.com (Lottermoser George)
Date: Sun Dec 7 13:05:48 2008
References: <C560F4F7.460A3%mark@rabinergroup.com> <a9b1ab93579239238cb7ed77a01b8184@cox.net>

Digitally speaking
FF Canon-5D
FF Leica-R8/DMR
FF Lieca M8

Fond regards,
George

george@imagist.com
http://www.imagist.com
http://www.imagist.com/blog
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On Dec 7, 2008, at 9:11 AM, Stasys Petravicius wrote:

> Mark- I'm shooting the R9/DMR which has a crop factor- 1.37,  Stasys
> On Dec 7, 2008, at 12:35 AM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>
>> This is a Leica list. Some think "the" Leica list.
>> On this list how many of use are shooting with DSLR's?
>> Most of us. The majority of us by far though quite a few of us of  
>> course are
>> getting good use out of our M8's.
>>
>> Of the vast majority of us who are getting most of our shots with  
>> DSLR's how
>> many of use are FF's and how many of us are croppers?
>>
>> I think must of us on this list are FFers.
>> I'd love a survey.
>> or if many of us "weighed in".
>>
>> I unfortunately and not for long am shooting at 1.5 crop  as I  
>> have been for
>> years first with a Nikon D100 when it first hit now D200 and D40x -
>> But not for long.
>> I got my eye on January 17th for my upgrade date.
>> I like the idea of a 50mm being my "normal" focal length again.
>>
>>
>>
>> mark@rabinergroup.com
>> Mark William Rabiner
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: Mark Rabiner <mark@rabinergroup.com>
>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>>> Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 21:18:35 -0500
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>>> Conversation: [Leica] Bad news at Leica
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Bad news at Leica
>>>
>>> Right now APS-2 and similar 1.5 or close to it crop systems are  
>>> starting to
>>> be be referred to as "small sensor cameras". This will be the  
>>> preferred
>>> terminology in a week or so.
>>>
>>> In six months you will be hard pressed do find ANYONE
>>> Doing anything resembling serious work with "small sensor cameras".
>>>
>>> LEICA and SERIOUS WORK is/are synonymous or should be.
>>>
>>>
>>> There will be a GAP where there shouldn't be.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> mark@rabinergroup.com
>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: Bob W <leica@web-options.com>
>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>>>> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 01:35:45 -0000
>>>> To: 'Leica Users Group' <lug@leica-users.org>
>>>> Subject: RE: [Leica] Bad news at Leica
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> How can we convince them that the M system is ok without AF?
>>>>>
>>>>> What the M system needs is FF not AF.
>>>>>
>>>>> Give me FF or give me Death!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't think AF, FF or Death! are particularly desirable. What  
>>>> I would
>>>> prefer is a sensor without the problems,  and a return to the  
>>>> size of the
>>>> early M models (M3 etc). So called FF is largely irrelevant  
>>>> given the
>>>> resolution of the current sensor, and the availability of  
>>>> reasonably wide
>>>> lenses.
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>>
>>>>
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In reply to: Message from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] Bad news at Leica - FF or crop survey)
Message from stasys1 at cox.net (Stasys Petravicius) ([Leica] Bad news at Leica - FF or crop survey)