Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/12/04

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Subject: [Leica] VERY OT: Michael Collins
From: sonc.hegr at gmail.com (Sonny Carter)
Date: Thu Dec 4 16:00:10 2008
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On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Marc James Small 
<marcsmall@comcast.net>wrote:

>
>   Saying, "I read something once upon a time" just causes the proposed
> statement to fall to a zero in credibility:


I provided a link to where I read it, and it wasn't once upon a time. It was
this week.


> "once upon a time, a guy in a bar told me that his grandmother dynamited
> the Hoover Dam".


I photographed in the very bar this summer where I was told  Collins
visited.

>
> Second, no, I had no idea that you were an archivist by profession.  Now, a
> tut-tut.  As an archivist, you ought to know that a vague reference to, "I
> once read" is so much persiflage.  Tut-tut, and the matter is closed.


I'm not an archivist.  I work in an Archive. Matters are not closed until
people stop writing about them.

>
>
>   In general, Wikipedia is a great source, almost as great a source as is
> my tenth edition ENCYCLOPAEDIA BRITANNICA, and one hell of a lot easier to
> use.


Edited by amateurs, juried by the general public.  I use it, but an article
on a County is not likely to have an in depth history.

>
>
> Fourth, yes, Tim Pat Coogan has been constantly attacked by Irish
> academics.  Several points.  First, academics, that most oddball of 
> classes,
> hate journalists who right history:


Write History.  Well, I did not attack him, I just think his is not the last
word, and just because he doesn't include something doesn't mean it didn't
happen.

>
> Fifth, Collins was a remarkable fellow despite your demeaning words towards
> him.


Where did I demean him?

>
>
> Sonny, we have no fight.  If you wish to be a Dev adherent, so be it.


I don't know what that is, so I guess I'm not actively one.


>
> But, again, there are a million stories in the naked city:  ask your
> neighbors about their stories!


Um that's what we do in the archive. As our neighbors about their history.

Did you even read Douglas Barry's answer to our thread?


-- 
Regards,

Sonny
http://www.sonc.com
http://sonc.stumbleupon.com/
Natchitoches, Louisiana
USA

In reply to: Message from amr3 at uwm.edu (Alan Magayne-Roshak) ([Leica] IMG:Three WayBack Pix)
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Message from sonc.hegr at gmail.com (Sonny Carter) ([Leica] OT: Michael Collins, was Gun Photos)
Message from marcsmall at comcast.net (Marc James Small) ([Leica] OT: Michael Collins, was Gun Photos)
Message from sonc.hegr at gmail.com (Sonny Carter) ([Leica] OT: Michael Collins, was Gun Photos)
Message from marcsmall at comcast.net (Marc James Small) ([Leica] OT: Michael Collins, was Gun Photos)
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