Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/12/04

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Subject: [Leica] The Family of Man II
From: kididdoc at cox.net (Steve Barbour)
Date: Thu Dec 4 07:02:37 2008
References: <200812032003.mB3K3A41006040@server1.waverley.reid.org> <EB3AC2F4-6752-4FBD-8AD7-AE56DE05ADAC@netvigator.com> <CD4DAD35-EC38-4A2E-8946-35DDEAD74250@frozenlight.eu>

On Dec 3, 2008, at 11:44 PM, Nathan Wajsman wrote:

> This is what is really disappointing about Leica. The products are  
> great, but everything around it, i.e. marketing, customer service  
> etc., leaves a lot to be desired. This is a case in point: here they  
> had a coffee table book produced by Leica enthusiasts all over the  
> world, free to use in their marketing as they wish, and instead they  
> prefer the mediocre shit you describe (also frequently seen in the  
> pages of LFI, that is why I cancelled my subscription a few years  
> ago).
>
> Likewise their alleged pre-sales: you may remember a couple of weeks  
> ago I complained about not getting a response to some M8-related  
> questions e-mailed to them; well, more than 2 weeks later, still no  
> response. In the meantime I have received answers from fellow  
> LUGgers, but that is beside the point. A potential buyer for your  
> flagship product asks a couple of simple question and the company  
> just ignores him? Strange sales tactics indeed.

they are clearly in over their heads...

like the one about the swan....

"calm, cool, and collected above water...

paddling like hell underneath"....


Steve
>
>
> Cheers,
> Nathan
>
> Nathan Wajsman
> Alicante, Spain
> http://www.frozenlight.eu
> http://www.greatpix.eu
> http://www.nathanfoto.com
>
> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0
> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog
>
>
>
> On Dec 3, 2008, at 11:33 PM, H&ECummer wrote:
>
>>
>>> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 07:55:00 +0100
>>> From: Nathan Wajsman <photo@frozenlight.eu>
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] The Family of Man II on a Spanish Newspaper
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>>>
>>> This is excellent, LLuis, although it would have been nice if the
>>> article talked a bit more about the book as such and not just one
>>> particular photo. But better than nothing!
>>>
>>> As for LFI and Leica, I think Alastair tried to get them  
>>> interested in
>>> some way but with no luck. I guess their marketing department was  
>>> busy
>>> dreaming up new Special Editions at the time.
>>>
>>> Saludos,
>>> Nathan
>>
>> Hi Nathan,
>> I approached Stephen Lee about FOM II and introduced Alastair to him.
>> Alastair made a presentation about it to Stephen and then nothing  
>> happened.
>> I wrote to Stephen pointing out that the photographs in the foyer  
>> of the Solms
>> office did not emphasize the image quality that Leica lenses were  
>> capable of producing.
>> (They were in fact out of focus grainy swirls of sh*t). Stephen did  
>> find the time to
>> write back to me that it was Leica policy to allow creative vision  
>> to the photographers
>> they worked with. But there was never any response to Alastair's  
>> presentation.
>> Very strange in my opinion.
>> Keep those Alicante pictures coming by the way.
>> Cheers
>> Howard
>>
>>
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