Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/11/12

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Subject: [Leica] IMG: Fall Colors at Pt. Lobos
From: rgacpa at (Bob Adler)
Date: Wed Nov 12 08:18:15 2008

Hi George and Frank,

Number 1 was photographed with a Tilt/Shift lens. I think the problem is 
that the foreground and background are in focus because they are in the 
plane of focus?produced by the tilt. The mid-ground area was down a cliff; a 
drop of 20 - 30 feet. As this would put it out of the plane of focus created 
by the tilt, the only way to try to get it in focus is through reducing the 
aperture. I believe I should have shot at a smaller aperture than?f8, and 
that may be the cause of?the slop you see.
I think?this would explain it as the right side was futher below me than the 
left and, as Frank noted, the right side seems more out of focus. I think 
the shift was centered.
Does this make sense to you?

Thanks for pointing this out. I'll?just have to go back! :-)

George, as for the darkness in the the other shots, it's not caused by any 
adjustments by me. Pt. Lobos has a huge dynamic range. I could never get 
anything when I shot Velvia?nor negative color. Even using N-2 with BW film 
couldn't get it all. I had a .6ND Grad filter (I'm going to be buying a .9 
now) and even with all that an the increased capture dynamic range of 
digital, I couldn't get it.

So thanks for the input very much. Numbers?4 and the last image will be put 
on my main gallery!
?Bob Adler
Palo Alto, CA 

From: Frank Filippone <>
To: Leica Users Group <>
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 7:45:08 AM
Subject: RE: [Leica] IMG: Fall Colors at Pt. Lobos

Bob... were you using your perspective controlled lens for the first shot?
Does the lens offer swings and tilts?? Or Tilt only?? ( relative to a
landscape image configuration.)

Mid range focus on the right worse than midrange on the left.....? indicates
maybe your lens was not "centered" and set for some amount of tilt.... which
in this composition means swing... and therefore the focus planes are not
where we expect them.....? Although it certainly works for the

Is this just a case of focus distortion caused by the foreground focus being
right ( which it is) , and the background wrong for the foreground focus

Sometimes swings and tilts make the focus just look weird.... 

Certainly a colorful shot.... nicely composed.

Frank Filippone

the first - the mid frame lack of focus puzzles me

Fond regards,


>? Bob Adler
> Palo Alto, CA

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