Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/09/25

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Subject: [Leica] a serious question
From: eric.calderwood at btinternet.com (Eric Calderwood)
Date: Thu Sep 25 06:32:33 2008
References: <7A863272-CCBA-4DC5-84E9-0E546CDF201E@mac.com><20080925024515.55176af0@linux-019a.site> <8FEDFDC8-2735-4DDC-967C-20E849F6DF4D@mac.com>

Exactly.

Well said George.

Regards
Eric Calderwood
(Liverpool UK)




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lottermoser George" <imagist3@mac.com>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] a serious question


> Reality check
> 
> On Sep 25, 2008, at 1:45 AM, Philip Forrest wrote:
>> Because there is no logical reason that a manual focus 50mm lens  
>> should
>> cost $5000.
> 
> I suspect that if you saw the balance sheets for: amortizing R&D,  
> materials and labor in production, reasonable profit, marketing  
> costs, dealer markups et al - the logical reality would become clear  
> to you.
> 
>> Most other Leica lenses cost upwards of $3k as well for
>> modern optics.
> 
> False: 90 Macro Elmar, 50 Summicron, 24 Elmarit R all $2,000; 28  
> Elmarit, asph $1,800; Summarit line $1,300 - $1500
> 
>> This is why they continue to be able to play on the
>> world market with companies like Canon and Nikon.
> 
> So something's working - your point?
> 
>> Leica's M8 may be
>> nice but it's only 1/3 the camera that an EOS 5D is,
> 
> As an owner of both; in my subjective opinion - the M8 "is" 3 times  
> better than the 5D - because it delivers more fine detail, dynamic  
> range and useable shadow detail.
> 
>> and for the price
>> of the M8, you can get the EOS with a lens.
> 
> or 4 Canon Rebels; or 250 Holgas; or a used car; or a fine watch; or  
> a hundred good watches; or a terrific bicycle; or 4 really nice  
> bicycles; or or or
> 
>> I can go on & on. I love
>> the film bodies, love the old lenses, will never afford the new ones
>> and probably have no reason to anyways.
> 
> Leica, new in sealed box, has always cost the most, because they've  
> always been a small company making terrific, high quality products in  
> small quantities (with some exceptions). Nothing new about that. Why  
> diss them for what they have always been and continue to be?
> 
>> As long as Leica continues to cater to its core constituency with
>> making innovations for the next generation, they will always be on the
>> rocks.
> 
> On the rocks? This week they seem to be afloat, cruising beautifully  
> around a very large harbor; welcoming stunned guests aboard.
> 
> Fond regards,
> George
> 
> george@imagist.com
> http://www.imagist.com
> http://www.imagist.com/blog
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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