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Subject: [Leica] Who will purchase the 21 and 24 mm ?
From: tedgrant at shaw.ca (Ted Grant)
Date: Wed Sep 17 06:02:37 2008

Edward Caliguri offered:

Subject: Re: [Leica] Who will purchase the 21 and 24 mm ?

>> but my point is that , for my humble intents and purposes, I like to get
in close with a wide,; photograph the action there. With a Rangefinder wide
at these speeds (and I use a 'old' Noct and like it) you'll need the
external viewfinder, and to monitor your focus, the photographer will
constantly be shifting from external finder to rangefinder. Even with an
'add on eyepiece', the DOF will be nil, and focus best be right on the
money, and this may prove troublesome. They are large pieces of glass as
well. <<<<<<<<<

 

Hi Edward,

Have you ever tried this viewfinder trick when working with a 21mm or wider
on an M camera? Instead of switching back and forth between the external
viewfinder and internal focusing, you use only the internal viewfinder? Yep
the external finder is there just in case.

In this fashion you always keep your main subject as centre to the
rangefinder as possible constantly keeping them in focus. at any aperture. 

 

No you can't see the complete 21mm image coverage. However by keeping the
main body of the scene centered in the rangefinder you know the image is
much wider coverage and not likely are you going to miss anything.

 

>>>Wide open at f/1.4, shooting within a group of moving people, I'm
constantly framing and focusing with different finders.<<<

You can to some degree depending on the moment, avoid using both simply by
keeping the main subject in the rangefinder patch, you'll not miss anything.
And given it sounds like you are an experienced shooter you'll know
instinctively when to use the external finder if necessary.   

But having worked in maddening crowd situations on federal election
campaigns chasing the Prime Minister I can assure you this simple exercise
can be very helpful with no loss of important images working directly with
the internal rangefinder only. Do I work using this method all the time when
using a 21mm or wider? No, generally only in the fast moving maddening crowd
situations and occasionally street stuff.

I trust you may find this helpful.

ted

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 I can see Mehrdad's point; we don't know how they will perform. I as well
know the Canon's are miserable, but my point is that , for my humble intents
and purposes, I like to get in close with a wide,; photograph the action
there. With a Rangefinder wide at these speeds (and I use a 'old' Noct and
like it) you'll need the external viewfinder, and to monitor your focus, the
photographer will constantly be shifting from external finder to
rangefinder. Even with an 'add on eyepiece', the DOF will be nil, and focus
best be right on the money, and this may prove troublesome. They are large
pieces of glass as well. 

 

My point essentially is that I am both an M and R user - and using the M
with a 21, 24 or 28 I like to get the grab shot right in the center of the
action. With the current 2.8 and 2.0 objectives, I can pre-focus, use f/8.0
or f/5.6, even f/4.0, get right in there and shoot away. I can do that also
with the new glass; but then I am paying for light I am not using. Hence the
thought that I'd rather have them in an R version on my DMR (or better R10)
than on my M8/8.2. Wide open at f/1.4, shooting within a group of moving
people, I'm constantly framing and focusing with different finders. See my
point? Then there are the 'corner cyan blues' to contend with - maybe.

 

Edward

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