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Subject: [Leica] SFMOMA incident
From: alal at duke.poly.edu (A. Lal)
Date: Tue Aug 12 16:27:42 2008
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Was this the BAM concert behind Brooklyn Poly?
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From: "Chris Saganich" <chs2018@med.cornell.edu>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Tuesday, 12 August, 2008 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] SFMOMA incident


> Yea, I was witness to a similar event last Thursday.  Richie Havens played 
> a free concert in downtown Brooklyn in a small plaza.  The coordinators 
> asked that concert goers to restrict taking photographs to the first two 
> (or three) numbers, (ie crowing around the stage being annoying with big 
> cameras for the whole show.)  They were explicit in citing those 
> "professional cameras with the large lenses" as being of most concern. 
> For the most part people came to the stage snapped a couple picts and went 
> back to their seat, except one guy, who after about 6 or so songs was 
> politely asked to finish-up.  Well what a fuss he made, bla, bla, public 
> place, I'm not a professional, and refused to move.  Like out of spite 
> switched his camera to burst mode or something and became even more 
> confrontational.  The the concert coordinators had no real authority to 
> remove the guy from a public place so they dropped it.  I noticed he 
> eventually became bored and decided enjoying Havens was better then 
> photographing him.
>
> Question:  This restriction of "professional cameras with big lenses" 
> seems to be a new policy around here
>
>
> At 01:51 PM 8/11/2008, you wrote:
>
>>I wasn't going to post this, because I figured someone else would. In the 
>>206 comments to Hawk's initial blog post (when I went to it) one was from 
>>someone who proported to be one of the two SFMOMA employees who escorted 
>>the photographer from the premises. He stated that Mr. Hawk was asked to 
>>stop photographing ten  times not for taking photos in the atrium, but for 
>>what the employees believed was perching on a balcony and taking a 
>>photograph down a staff members amply filled blouse. Whether or not this 
>>was actually the case (to the untrained eye a large aperture wide angle 
>>lens at the appropriate angle for capturing a large room can probably look 
>>like a super-telephoto pointed in a strange direction) it sounds like a 
>>reasonable starting point for a flare-up. It also appears from reading a 
>>few of his blog posts that he can be a confrontation waiting for an event. 
>>And the fact that he continued photographing after being asked to stop ten 
>>times suggests to me not that the atrium of SFMOMA was in such desperate 
>>need of being photographed at that exact moment, but that he was looking 
>>for a fight.
>>
>>There are photographs that it's a journalists duty to go to the mat to 
>>get. The already well photographed atrium of SFMOMA probably isn't, IMHO, 
>>one of those.
>>
>>kc
>>
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In reply to: Message from kcassidy at asc.upenn.edu (Kyle Cassidy) ([Leica] SFMOMA incident)
Message from chs2018 at med.cornell.edu (Chris Saganich) ([Leica] SFMOMA incident)