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Subject: [Leica] snooze and squeeze...
From: kididdoc at cox.net (Steve Barbour)
Date: Mon Jun 23 21:16:55 2008
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On Jun 23, 2008, at 5:35 PM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote:

> Aah, playing the HCB card hey?
> Looks like you are doing fine on the decisive moment criteria. So we  
> can
> assume that there was zero cropping, ever! and also someone else  
> suffered in
> the darkroom for your unconscious art ;-)
> Want to talk about HCB's instinctive and magnificent mastery of  
> composition
> and geometry from his training as a painter? Or some really  
> difficult negs
> made without the benefit of meters and other new fangled developments?
>
> '..Sane judgement abhors nothing so much as a picture perpetrated  
> with no
> technical knowledge, although with plenty of care and diligence..."
> Albrecht Durer, 1535. ;-) ;-)


no, I don't think Henri was ever that preachy and pedantic...


;-)

Steve

>
>
> Cheers
> Geoff
> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/e
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] snooze and squeeze...
>
> On Jun 23, 2008, at 3:32 PM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote:
>
>> Steve, the moments caught and the people's faces are delightful. I
>> have to be the heretic and say that I don't think the light makes  
>> them
> ideal candidates for BW. (Lower levels with a little less distinct
>> direction and their natural darker skin tones). Mainly though I  
>> think both
> benefit from lighter rendering. There is modelling and sufficient  
> detail
> there, seen when lightened (I tried globally lighter and they  
> improve IMHO).
>
> please Geoff  send to me privately...I'd really appreciate it.
>
>> For me they are too far into the darks so that hair and eyes detail  
>> are
> lost. Two more heresies;
>> A blink of fill flash might have been good for eyes in squeeze and I
>> bet that you would get more differentiation and engagement in  
>> colour in
>> both. Were these converted or shot as BW originals?
>
> I have to be honest...
>
> shot as bw...
>
> handheld, no flash, no tripod, no studio lights, in the clinic, during
> real life ...
>
> I think I am the heretic...
>
> (but Henri would be proud...)
>
>
> :-)
>
>> I'd be happy to read dissenting opinion (and probably will!)
>
>
> I wouldn't entirely rule it out...
>
> :-)
>
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>
>
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