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Subject: [Leica] Orphan Works - . A MUST READ EVERYONE! :-( DON'T CRYLATER!YOU WERE WARNED!!!
From: tedgrant at shaw.ca (Ted Grant)
Date: Mon May 12 06:31:45 2008

Gerry please accept my deepest apology as I'm quite in error. 

A complete personal identity mistake on my part, therefore I ask your
forgiveness to my hot headed remarks.

It's not my way to deal with anyone. 

I can only offer as a weak excuse this Orphan bill has completely riled me
no end like any other government intrusion on our picture protection rights.

As a Canadian photographer I'd normally never make a comment on something
involving the USA government. 

However, in this case it's a bill that will affect every photographer in the
world these days due to use of the internet and future transmission
abilities. 

Besides the organizing groups to write letters or send e-mails are American
photo groups urging photographers around the world to submit their concerns.

It was this concern by your fellow countrymen pressuring us foreigners to
respond, I felt it responsible to alert members of the LUG who post their
pictures. 

ERGO: my error in response to what I took as your somewhat off handed
comment about chickens.

My error completely and I sincerely apologize for my brash comment. 

ted

 

 

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From: lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Jerry
Lehrer
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 4:08 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] Orphan Works - . A MUST READ EVERYONE! :-( DON'T
CRYLATER!YOU WERE WARNED!!!

 

Ted,

 

WTF makes you think that I have ever posted pictures on the internet?  

As I have oft said, I HAVE

NO DIGITAL PHOTO CAPABILITIES OR ABILITY.  I did once try to get a 

digital photo of  a

kitten shown on the LUG, but I was severely  castigated for even 

trying.  My daughter  took the

picture with her digital Leica.  In fact, it was at the LHSA shoot in 

Victoria that she first saw that

camera and had to have it.  You were there.

 

Tina has graciously referred me to several sources on the bill.  She did 

not threaten to kick my ass,

even though she is coming to California in a short while.

 

I have e-mailed my Congress people to help your kind.  Marc Small is 

going the other way because

he got no satisfaction with the previous laws.

 

Welcome to California

Jerry

 

 

Ted Grant wrote:

>>> We have a bunch of Chicken Littles giving their febrile maunderings and

>>>       

> exhortations to "phone, write, or fax your Congress persons".<<<<

> 

> Gerry this is about your country and your governing members about to take

> away your personal rights of use by others! Unfortunately if it passes it

> will effect every artist - photographer in the world! 

> 

> Maybe you should read about it instead of wasting our time. I'd be face
into

> the internet learning what it's all about as quick as I could. Actually if

> you read one or two of the e-mails you wouldn't be asking what it's about!


> 

> There are no "Chicken Little's here! But there are photographers who care

> enough about this to alert the LUG-crew just how bad this bill is for

> everyone's good!

> 

> By the way if you ever refer to me as a Chicken Little again I'll
personally

> come to California and kick your ass!!

> 

> Because if this bill is passed, we all are going to loose control of our

> pictures!

> 

> So maybe you better seriously pay attention to Tina, George, Harrison, and
a

> few others because they are showing this in good faith for all.

> 

> I do believe you've posted pictures, so that means they're still in

> cyber-space for anyone to use whether you like it or not in any fashion
they

> wish! And not give you credit, a dime or a dollar for your efforts.

> 

> So don't you think you better pay attention to this?

> 

> ted 

> 

>  

> 

> 

>   

 

 

 

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